Dancing with the Stars - Season 21 (Season Thread) *Spoilers OK*

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  1. Oct 20, 2015 #41 of 101
    lalouque

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    Thank heavens Paula Dean is gone. However, I'm certainly going to miss Louis in short shorts. Yowza!! More of that, please!
     
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    DancnDude

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    This episode was full of some really fun performances, though the Singin' in the Rain one was my favorite. Very fun!
     
  3. Oct 20, 2015 #43 of 101
    martinp13

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    I think that was one of my favorite episodes ever. I wish they could do that every season but I don't think there are enough "iconic dances". :)

    Ok, now that Paula is gone, that completes Group 1. Now we have Group 2, who are the Also-Rans. This group is head and shoulders above Group 1, but they aren't good enough to win unless they have massive fan support. Right now I have Alek, Nick, Hayes, and Tamar, but if Alexa can't handle being under the red light (last night was her first time in jeopardy), I think she could fold soon. I think the only locks for Group 3 (Potential winners) are Bindi and maybe Carlos, maybe Andy.

    And I hope no one was playing the drinking game last night, or they're probably dead. I have never heard the word "amazing" so many times... Leah just couldn't stop saying it, then Olivia got stuck on it. :)
     
  4. Oct 20, 2015 #44 of 101
    MikeekiM

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    Yes! Bottom dwellers are gone... Now we've got at least an interesting horse race...

    I agree that we have a lot of people in the middle, and not a lot of front runners... Not sure how to call this one...

    I like Bindi... Not sure I agree that it was a perfect 10 across the board this week... I have said it before, and I'll say it again...I can't watch Bindi without smiling...she really lights up the stage... But more than just Bindi...I really like Derek as a coach... He is...wait for it...amazing... ;) What he did with Alexa last week was fantastic... What positive energy and great coaching...
     
  5. Oct 20, 2015 #45 of 101
    gossamer88

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    Except for Singin' In The Rain, the judges were too generous with the 10s last night.

    So glad Paula is gone. Man was she annoying!
     
  6. Oct 20, 2015 #46 of 101
    MikeekiM

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    Uh...yeah... I am not going to miss Paula Dean or Louis in short shorts... :)

    And while I am not suggesting that older celebrities be banned from the show, I almost think that the celebrities need some sort of "try out" that demonstrates that they are up for the challenge...

    I get that dancing is not their schtick... But there should be some physical tryout that demonstrates that they can make the journey... These first few weeks are always so painful to watch...
     
  7. Oct 20, 2015 #47 of 101
    wprager

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    Thing is so long as it remains a contest where someone goes home every week you don't really want 12 contestants who are all good. Of course there is a difference between not-really-good and embarrassing.
     
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    martinp13

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    Has Derek ever gotten a "dud" partner? He's such a good teacher... I wonder if he could have done better with Paula?
     
  9. Oct 20, 2015 #49 of 101
    murgatroyd

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    Has anyone ever made a list of the heights of the pro dancers?
     
  10. Oct 21, 2015 #50 of 101
    MikeekiM

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    I rewatched some of the dances last night because I was half asleep when I watched the first time... Man, the judges were playing it VERY loose with their "10" paddles...

    Bindi had a bit of a mis-step, and the lift was pretty shaky... I couldn't do better... And it was a great execution...probably worthy of a 9... But it was shy of perfection, which is what a 10 is supposed to represent...

    Braxton's Janet Jackson dance, again...was good... But still shy of perfection... Didn't deserve a perfect score...
     
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  11. Oct 21, 2015 #51 of 101
    wprager

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    He has a partner with no legs once. Did alright.
     
  12. Oct 21, 2015 #52 of 101
    MikeekiM

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    Got this list from Wikipedia... Names of each of the celebrities Derek has coached, and their final placement in the competition... 5 championship wins!

    • Jennie Garth (4th)
    • Shannon Elizabeth (6th)
    • Brooke Burke (1st)
    • Lil' Kim (5th)
    • Joanna Krupa (4th)
    • Nicole Scherzinger (1st)
    • Jennifer Grey (1st)
    • Ricki Lake (3rd)
    • Maria Menounos (4th)
    • Shawn Johnson (2nd)
    • Kellie Pickler (1st)
    • Amber Riley (1st)
    • Amy Purdy (2nd)
    • Bethany Mota (4th)
    • Nastia Liukin (4th)
    • Bindi Irwin
     
  13. Oct 21, 2015 #53 of 101
    DancnDude

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    During the "All-stars" season they added 1/2 point paddles and I really think they should have just kept them for the regular seasons. At some point, everybody seems to be getting the scores that are either the same or close to the same. It would be more interesting to have 8.5 and 9.5 as options.
     
  14. Oct 21, 2015 #54 of 101
    martinp13

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    I've always been curious how they "score" the call-in votes. OK, it counts for half of your total score. But how do you correlate 5.37 million call-in votes with a paddle-score of 38? Has any info like that ever been posted or published?
     
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    DancnDude

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    I found this page that says it works like this:
     
  16. Oct 22, 2015 #56 of 101
    martinp13

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    Fascinating. Probably the easiest way to boil those two scores into something usable. But a harsh sex change for Jennifer Grey. :)
     
  17. Oct 22, 2015 #57 of 101
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    I would have preferred a relative placement system, and have the audience percentages get converted to a placement and count as 1 or 2 judges.

    http://www.experts-exchange.com/Other/Math_Science/Q_21366761.html

    I don't feel like the judge's scores have enough weight.

    Given the actual scoring mechanism, take an extreme example. Suppose there are 4 couples remaining.
    * All but one couple averages 6's. One couple averages 10's. There is about a 14% difference (21% vs 35%)
    * All but one couple averages 10's. One couple averages 6's. There is about a 11% difference (16% vs 27%)

    And the gap tightens with more couples and higher scores. Much of the time, the scores have a narrower range. That is, an 8 in a sea of 6's has a bigger percentage lead than a 10 in a sea of 8's. So typically, the gap between highest and lowest judge's score will be less than 10%.

    I do wonder what the percentages (and raw numbers) of the audience vote look like though. It pisses me off that they try to obscure information. Most of the season, the red light just means "in jeopardy, but not necessarily the bottom 2." WTF does that mean? Just "we're not going to tell you who got the second lowest votes, and we think this couple will have the biggest dramatic effect."
     
  18. Oct 22, 2015 #58 of 101
    martinp13

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    Yes, it is to create drama where none exists. I think they also try to get every couple "in jeopardy" at least once during the season, so no one feels safe. Alexa really lost it when she was "in jeopardy" this past week... as they were showing Tom in the foreground, you could see her bawling into Mark's chest on stage in the background, and some of the other couples came over to console her. Good grief... get a grip!
     
  19. Oct 22, 2015 #59 of 101
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    I think if you saw raw vote totals you would probably know from week 1 who was going to win.
     
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    MikeekiM

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