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Daily Guide Updates

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by PSU_Sudzi, Jan 27, 2017.

  1. Nov 4, 2017 #841 of 871
    JoeKustra

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    It's possible we are having one of those weekends. I'll know in about an hour. System Info says 11/14 (11/15 on a Premiere).
     
  2. Nov 4, 2017 #842 of 871
    PSU_Sudzi

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    11/14 is how far out your guide goes, I’ve never seen that in the System Info screen?

    Edit: just found it. 11/14 on Roamio.
     
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  3. Nov 4, 2017 #843 of 871
    JoeKustra

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    This would be a bad weekend if there is a guide problem. I don't know what will be the effect of time change. I guess we'll find out tomorrow morning.
     
  4. Nov 4, 2017 #844 of 871
    PSU_Sudzi

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    The horror. :)
     
  5. Nov 4, 2017 #845 of 871
    TonyD79

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    Why would the time change make it any different. The guide data for tonight was first loaded days ago.
     
  6. Nov 4, 2017 #846 of 871
    Miss Knapp

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    It would be so nice if Tivo would make sure EXISTING features work properly before adding something new.
    When they do add something new, it would be nice if they made sure that the new addition didn't FUBAR existing features.
     
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  7. Nov 4, 2017 #847 of 871
    JoeKustra

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    Just received guide extension to 11/16 on one Roamio. One to go.
     
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  8. Nov 4, 2017 #848 of 871
    samccfl99

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    So I usually do not post in threads like this, because Rovi will screw up whenever they can...BUT on Fri, they played their stupid trick when some MSNBC news shows (Andrea Mitchel, MTP, and a few more) did not show "NEW" when they usually do. Good thing I am a Political news junky and monitor it. OH WELL...:rolleyes::D
     
  9. Nov 4, 2017 #849 of 871
    TonyD79

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    I’m to 11/17 7 pm
     
  10. Nov 4, 2017 #850 of 871
    JoeKustra

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    I use System Info's date. My actual guide goes to 11/18 at 1pm. Tomorrow it will be 2pm.
     
  11. JoeKustra

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    It's been a while. Seems like no update today. First two tries get a C117 error. Now it shows "Succeeded", but no guide extension. Next update is tomorrow afternoon. Hamsters are on life support.
     
  12. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    FWIW, my box called in at about 11:30 and got the regular update. Currently up to 6:00PM Saturday 11/25.
     
  13. JoeKustra

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    I just forced a service connection and the guide received a normal extension. I guess someone called 911 and the hamster got CPR.

    However, the patient isn't out of the woods. No content was added. All those "No information available" are still that way.
     
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  14. dlfl

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    Guide data for my Turner Classic Movies channel has been atrocious for at least the last week. Wrong titles, wrong times, gaps, etc.

    I worked in a software group until 2009 when the primary project was cancelled because goals were no where close to being met. Problem was the group resources (e.g. programmers) were much to small for the intended product goal. We just kept flailing along for several years until things collapsed. I hate to say it but I get this feeling about Rovi and the program guide. I think people there know it's bad but Rovi just isn't willing or able to apply the required effort. Hope I'm wrong but ......
     
  15. JoeKustra

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    I think they have survived (grown) for years with poor guide data. They have no reason to change. We (TCF) are not their 99% demo, and they won't miss us. I didn't feel that way about the old TiVo, but I do with the new TiVo. It doesn't make me feel happy.
     
  16. osu1991

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    from all the complaints at Satguys, Dish customers are not happy with the Rovified data either.
     
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  17. PSU_Sudzi

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    No update today. Sad!
     
  18. JoeKustra

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    Confirmed. Even the last update didn't help with descriptions or titles. Next test is tomorrow early. The pattern has changed, which is not a good thing.

    Another opinion -> Rovi Lineup Issues & Corrections
     
  19. PSU_Sudzi

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    How has the pattern changed? I think I’ve still seen updates around lunchtime EST the past week or so but I’ve not always been able to force connections every day.
     
  20. JoeKustra

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    First, I learned that the update cycle seems to run on UTC, except that DST also affects it.

    My pattern: I see updates from 2am until 6pm, about every 26 hours. A service connection also happens within 30 minutes of a restart. I get one day extensions every day except Tuesday and two days on Friday. The lack of an update on Tuesday is because my Monday update is after 4pm and the next is about 2am. I can't explain the two day extension on Fridays. Two notes: guide extensions do not always change the data. This is happening right now. Also, TiVo Online does not always reflect the guide on the device, it displays what the device's guide should be. I have been watching this for two months. Even though I have changed my hard drive, done restarts and C&DE, the pattern resumes quickly.

    No data or guide extension this morning. I have three Roamio boxes on-line right now. All have the same guide. None have missed a VCM Connection. At this time, TiVo Online does reflect almost the same data as my Roamio's guides.

    Checking tvguide.com, it also has missing content but does extend to 11/27.
     
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