Daily Guide Updates

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  1. Rob Helmerichs

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    I noticed with Killing Eve that Episode 4 this season was mislabeled and showed up as a special (i.e., not part of Season 3 and listed separately) (I save Killing Eve episodes). It also didn't have an episode description. A couple of weeks after it aired, the Guide Data was corrected so it now slots into Season 3 at Episode 4, and now has an episode description.

    Weird (but nice!) that they corrected the Guide Data so long after the show aired...
     
  2. Mikeguy

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    I get the TE3 Guide updates whenever TiVo issues them and the Guide was wrong on "Modern Family" for me as well (and recorded these non-episodes for me under my Season Pass for the show).
     
  3. PSU_Sudzi

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    Right, and that is the problem with how they have our TiVo's connect for updates. If you just let the TiVo do its thing on its own it will settle into its own schedule for update as @JoeKustra knows, keeping track of such connections. The problem then is sometimes it will not connect and give you the daily update including primetime updates. In this case I had checked my guide data and forced a connection and it got the update. If you really want to make sure you don't miss updates like that you have to force connections every day, maybe sometime in the early evening. But those updates aren't as reliable as they used to be! So basically we are all at their mercy.
     
  4. Mikeguy

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    And even then, if TiVo makes a change/correction to the Guide after your box has received a Guide update, you have that earlier Guide data until the next day/the next time the new Guide data is downloaded.
     
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  5. JoeKustra

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    I think the updates are as reliable as always. Just the quality has suffered greatly over the years. I used to send in lineup forms for the second week, but found that is a waste of time. I can predict that the second week of the guide is pretty much static and should be ignored. But they do tend up fix current problems. It's like there are two guide groups, or maybe one guide group and they only maintain one week, call it the pending week. That second week is mostly ignored but is added on the weekend. It explains the occasional mixing of TE4 and TE3 guides. An example: the second Saturday in the guide for MSNBC is TBA. All day. I guess that's why TE4 went to a guide update schedule and a service connection schedule. "TiVo the Merciless"
     
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  6. Mikeguy

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    Humorous Guide integrity/lack thereof issue:

    I checked the Guide a little bit ago today and saw that the PBS show "Escape to the Chateau," an episodic, ~45-minute, reality-like show about a Brit couple's purchase and rehab, largely by themselves, of a internally rundown French chateau, is on tonight--great. (Highly recommended--great fun of a show!) However, usually 2 episodes are shown, back-to-back--only one show was listed. But then I noticed that in the 55-minute time period before tonight's episode, there is a listing for the movie "The Great Escape," starring Steve McQueen and with James Garner--a great flick. But it certainly is not 55 minutes long. Five will get you ten that it is another episode of "Escape to the Chateau." :D

    (And of course, my season pass for the show, to record all new and repeat episodes, caught neither of the 2 episodes--I had to set them manually, to be recorded.)
     
  7. osu1991

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    I love watching Escape to the Chateau and the spin off series Escape to the Chateau DIY. I hope they get to film a new season 7 this year. They were in the middle of filming the new DIY season, when France was locked down.
     
  8. JoeKustra

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    Party's over. Both TE3 boxes received TE4 style updates. Data ends at 8pm, with TBA until 12:30am.
     
  9. MrChan

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    Still have no guide data this morning here at my location in north Georgia.
     
  10. Rob Helmerichs

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    I've still been getting my (TE4) data reliably each evening by 8:00pm (what used to be the following day's data). One odd thing I've noticed is that it takes a lot longer for the To Do List to repopulate with the new data...it used to be 15-20 minutes, but now it can be well over an hour.
     
  11. JoeKustra

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    I noticed long load times before v7. Now the "Loading..." is no longer displayed. Since both schedulers are still active, I had a both try at the same time. The old one failed.
     
  12. PSU_Sudzi

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    Today’s update gave me a TBA on June 10th in addition to yesterday’s TBA on June 9th. Guess the hamsters are protesting also.
     
  13. JoeKustra

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    Thanks for the info. I am going to see if a guided setup will replace the CPI&TDL tomorrow. I must have 17 TDS in my TDL. If the guide servers are in a bad mood I may get screwed, but I won't be missing much right now.
     
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  14. morac

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    There’s no point in doing either a guided setup or CPI&TDL until Tivo fixes the server data.

    http://online.tivo.com/start/guide is showing TBA from 5/9 8 pm onwards when I’m not logged in. When logged in it uses box guide data, when not logged in it uses server data, so basically it’s broken for everyone at this point. You’ll need to wait for Tivo to fix the server data otherwise you’ll just you’ll still have TBA after forcing the Tivo to update its data.
     
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    That’s good guide data knowledge, thanks for sharing.
     
  16. JoeKustra

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    I think you have a typo. My TE3 guide data ends 6/9 at 8pm (bad). My TE4 guide data ends on 6/12 at 8pm (normal). No service connections on the TE3 units today yet.
     
  17. morac

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    Yeah I mean 6/9. Currently the online guide goes out to end of day 6/11 and from 8 pm 6/9 onwards is TBA.

    Online guide data is weird in that it will show the selected box’s guide data if logged in. If not logged in, it will show the generic upstream guide data for the default or selected lineup. The online guide data doesn’t directly feed the boxes, though it comes from the same source and usually updates first. Nearly every time I’ve seen the online guide data not update, the box data doesn’t update either.
     
  18. JoeKustra

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    TE3 box 1 - nothing on service connection. Critters have weekend off.
     
  19. Rob Helmerichs

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    And yet T4 got it as usual yesterday evening...

    Weird that the two systems are so separate.
     
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  20. JoeKustra

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    The guide content is also different. I can compare them side-by-side and the locations & titles, not just descriptions, are different. I think their goal is one guide for all. I wouldn't mind having just the TE4 guide. It will slow the Premiere and Roamio boxes down, so there will be some negative feedback. There always is.
     

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