Advertisements Okay... I succumbed and did the dirty deed. I feel greasy. I've been wait and waiting, but finally decided to go ahead and upgrade my HR10-250 to the HR20. It's a sad day here in this Tivo family (we even have matching license plates, TIVOGUY and TIVOGAL). I got the deal at NO charge, but I was required to 'trade-in' the HR10. I didn't realize that was going to happen, but I guess it's not a big deal as, and this what concerns me, I was told I really had no option if I wanted to continue to receive HD. The retention rep told me that by the end of the year, the HR10 will be obsolete as they are moving all of the HD channels to the new Sat and to the MPEG4 format. Is this true? I've read most of the threads here on the subject, but I must have missed that fact? We still have one Tivo (and old Sony Series1) left that we use on standard def TVs. But it's still quite a culture shock to use to know we'll not be using a Tivo for our main viewing in our home theater.