Crisis on Infinite Earths (CW 2019-2020)

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  1. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    But my point is, for them it wasn't a problem, because they weren't going to acknowledge the other network's shows anyway. So that left them a clean slate to build their world however they wanted. The issue of whether or not they should deal with the Arrowverse not dealing with Superman was never going to come up. Even before they got to the point of thinking about Superman, the Arrowverse would have been out of the picture. Supergirl was never going to be set on that world.
     
  2. bobcarn

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    On that note about Earth-Prime and the DC heroes being comic book characters, if anyone wants to read a totally awesome story, check out "Secret Identity". It was a four-issue comic compiled into a graphic novel. It's about a young shy Clark Kent growing up in a small town in Kansas, never really fitting in with the different groups at school, but then one day discovering he has Superman's powers. He's suddenly Superman in a world where people know Superman as a comic book character. It's an incredible and touching story as he goes through life being a Superman that nobody knows exists. It's definitely in my top ten of favorite comics.
     
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  3. bobcarn

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    I miss Calista Flockhart. She was too awesome for words.

    One of my favorite lines ever was when she came in on Kara and Jimmy and everyone else while they were talking supergirl stuff. When they suddenly had to hide what they were doing and act natural, she eyes them suspiciosly and says "You all look like the multiracial yet nonthreatening cast of a CW show!"
     
  4. Rob Helmerichs

    Rob Helmerichs I am Groot! TCF Club

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    I completely agree. Awesome book.

    The same writer did a Batman book with the same basic concept (Creature of the Night) which IMO doesn't work nearly as well...it seems more like a gimmicky attempt to recreate the magic of Secret Identity.
     
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    Watched the final two episodes last night. What I always find amusing is that, even though the cross over is supposed to be one show, each episode contains a little bit of the DNA of the specific show for that episode. That was no more evident than the final episode, which was totally had a Legends vibe. I could not stop laughing when Beebo appeared! Push, nice little touch with Nate not liking being a part of the Crossover. (Hard No! from last year.) Guess with everyone being on Earth Prime now, he may be part or more Crossovers in the future, whether he likes it or not.

    Ezra Miller's cameo was fun. I like how the two Flash's compared their suits.

    It will be interesting to see where the shows go from here. As mentioned earlier, having all the Superheroes on one Earth makes it a little difficult to keep them apart. Arrow is coming to an end (not that I watched) it, so that won't be a big deal, and Legends is always somewhere else in time, so they can mostly ignore the characters, but Batwoman, Supergirl, and Flash on the same Earth will be interesting.
     
  6. Rob Helmerichs

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    It shouldn't be any different than Flash and Green Arrow, since the shows are are filmed in the same city. No problem having casual little guest appearances in between the annual events.

    Black Lightning will be more of a challenge tonally, since it's such a different show. But the geographical distance should help them keep it separate. (It's still a little weird to me that they put BL on the same Earth, since there are already so many other DC worlds out there; why not keep it separate? I guess they don't want to do cross-dimensional cross-overs any more...)
     
  7. HarleyRandom

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    The last two episodes were quite entertaining to me. Well, the fourth one would have been, except I had no idea what was going on with Oliver (and I'm not even going to call him Arrow because I don't think that's even who he was). And no, they couldn't save Oliver, but what they did was a great tribute to the character, even for those of us who didn't know him.

    My favorite part of episode four was watching Lex try to take over. He is so funny. And while we would never want him to succeed, I found myself rooting for him anyway.

    Then our heroes showed up and it was exciting to watch them stop him.

    Monitor (or whoever he was) actually had emotions. And he also had emotions in one of the earlier episodes, which was nice to see.

    But then came the final battle and it looked like it was over. What could be left?

    Oh, they'll think of something. I enjoyed that final episode a lot. Especially how our heroes were so confused because the world was so different. And then we had the giant stuffed toy. And Supergirl was so cute when Kate showed up.

    I can't describe what Lex reminded me of because of the rules of this site.

    Then came the final final battle. Which was confusing because two of the seven Paragons were not the Paragons. I know that one Superman disappeared, so he had to be another one. And then one of the guys was creating whatever machine we needed to defeat the enemy once and for all.

    And at the very end, they all came together as a group and established a meeting place. I liked how Black Lightning commented on the situation and their funny responses. It was a great way to end it.
     
  8. Craigbob

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    Thinking back on it another thing that felt weird to me to have Flash be the instigator for the JL instead of the normal trio of Superman, Batman and WW. But I guess in the Arrowverse it makes sense since he's kind of been a de-facto leader, especially with Arrow going off into the sunset.

    Also what happened to Lex? He knows all their secret identities now how is that going to affect things going forward?
     
  9. HarleyRandom

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    This is unfortunate because I never got interested in it and now, I've missed a bunch of epiosdes I would have liked?

    And now I apparently have to add it, when I don't have time for any more shows.
     
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    And what was the significance of Howie Mandel?

    I know it wasn't him but it sounded like him.
     
  11. Amnesia

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    Who are you talking about?
     
  12. Graymalkin

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    What Howie Mandel? That was Ezra Miller as the Flash from the “Justice League” movie.
     
  13. Amnesia

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    Maybe he's talking about Marv Wolfram...the guy who approached Supergirl and the Flash on the pier, asking for their autograph. He's the person who wrote the original Crisis on Infinite Earths comic book...
     
  14. HarleyRandom

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    To me he sounds like Howie Mandel.
     
  15. bobcarn

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    I came across a youtube video of reactions of people watching the 4th episode when Barry was in the Speed Force. It was really funny watching everyone freak out in astonishment. Kudos to WB for pulling that off. Apparently, that scene was filmed after the first three had aired. The movie studio called and said they wanted it to happen, could the TV producers somehow fit him in? They said they would absolutely find a way. They were surprised it didn't leak out that Miller was in the area at the time, because that would have been a giveaway. It turned out fantastic as it was one of the biggest surprises in the series. I know my jaw dropped.
     
  16. Rob Helmerichs

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    And after the last two were filmed...Gustin had to be called back to do the scene (and one factor was whether he would be available and willing).
     
  17. Snappa77

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    The whole crossover was VERY meh. I don't think it was good at all. Only thing enjoyable was the various cameos. They should stay away from epic crossovers for a looooong time.

    And Kevin Smith was 1000% faking his excitement for this.
     
  18. mr.unnatural

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    LOL, that was just Kevin Smith being Kevin Smith. He tries to look excited about everything comic related. Just watch an episode of Comic Men to see what I mean.
     
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    Based on last night's Supergirl, without going into a great amount of detail, I don't think the Supegirl writers got the memo on the new multiverse.
     
  20. longrider

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    I have not watched Supergirl yet but I did watch Batwoman and got the same impression.
    The only reference to the Crisis was a mention of Oliver Queen's passing and a comment about the Paragon of Courage. Other than that it was a normal Batwoman episode
     

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