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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by kdmorse, Dec 8, 2019.
You don’t need to as it’s not one of the official “crisis” episodes.
Good, because I started watching and it's not the kind of thing I would like at all.
So, the "Flash" episode ended up being pretty much what I expected. I wish there had been more humor because that's what I like about the series, and I wish they had spent more time with the characters I liked. But mostly this was just about saving all the Earths including their own. I enjoyed it more than I thought I would, especially when the older Flash sacrificed himself for young Flash. We couldn't lose our Barry! How could the series even continue?
In fact, how can any of them continue? They're all gone! These writers have written themselves into a hole they can't get out of.
Unless it's true they can go back and restore everything the way it was. And we've got two episodes tonight where that has to happen.
I watched the first three parts when they first aired, but I'm going to re-watch them tonight before watching the last two. I watch Batwoman, Supergirl, Flash, Arrow, and Legends anyway, but these shows are my first exposure to DC's Crisis, so it's all new to me. Not exactly a fan so far. Maybe after all five parts I'll change my mind.
I also watch Black Lightning, and none of the characters from the crossover shows appear on it. So you're not missing anything if you don't watch BL.
OK, I was not expecting *that* particular Flash to show up.
Not the JLA — but Super Friends? Seriously?
Gleek sounded an awful lot like the Joker.
Getting there was a bit of a slog at times though.
I enjoyed seeing cameos from the DC Universe shows (Titans, Doom Patrol, Swamp Thing and the upcoming Stargirl)
So anyone with a series ended up on this one Earth? What about normal folks? I wonder how the rules worked for that?
Did you read Doomsday Clock? It just finished this past December, and the multiverse expanded even more. It established the true nature of the main DC universe, and even glimpsed into the future and named future crises that will reboot it even further.
I binge-watched the first three episodes before the holidays, and just watched the final two tonight. Overall, I enjoyed it quite a bit. As expected, it stretched the bounds of believability even beyond comic book standards, but it also surprised the heck out of me sometimes. The cameos were WONDERFUL! How much are we allowed to say here?
I LOVED Tom Welling's appearance. Smallville strayed too long in, well, Smallville, but Tom Welling did an impeccable Clark Kent/Superman. The writers gave him that sense of altruism and righteousness and morals that Clark should have, and seeing Wellilng again in that role, along with Erica Durance, was awesome. It was even fitting that they managed to keep the "no tights/no flights" concept going.
Burt Ward was a pleasant surprise, as was all of the other cameos and appearances from all of the other media appearances of DC heroes. Earth-666 with Lucifer was freaking awsesome! I forgot about that show. I loved the first season, I'm gonna start binge-watching the rest.
And whoa! I too did not expect that Flash. What a great surprise!!!!
While the writers of Arrowverse tend to really not care about things like believability (even comic-book-standard levels), the broad way they encompassed so many incarnations of DC heroes on media was amazing. And I was surprised at how many scenes faithfully replicated the original Crisis on Infinite Earths story. The Shadow Demons, the look of the Monitor and Lyla and Pariah, and many individual scenes. For instance...
The Flash sacrificing himself. It was very fitting they used the original Flash to do it. It replicated what happened in the original story to a very large degree. The original Flash (well, the original Silver Age Flash) died in a very similar way, and the fact they used the closest thing to the Silver Age Flash (the first Flash to play in his own series) with a costume very close to the comics was very nicely done!
The monitor growing very large. The combination of the various universes... so much of it was pulled right from the original story. Kudos!
And I loved the ending and the creation of the new Justice League headquarters!
Black Lightning: Is this necessary? I mean, how often does the world almost come to an end?
(Everyone starts shuffling their feet and looking the other way)
Black Lightning: Oh. It's like that.
And I did a jaw-drop when the DCEU Flash showed up. Loved how they each liked the other's outfit!
It was not great writing, but was still fun, and the peeks at all of the other DC properties and shows and movies was delightful!
It's a shame Adam West isn't with us. Him with Burt Ward would have been great. For Christmas this year, my nephews got me a limited edition Joker statue. Only 1,966 were made. It goes with my similar Batman statue they got me last year. Both are from the 1966 TV show and have an AMAZING level of detail.
Cesar Romero's gloves are cycling gloves with straps that are buttoned closed, and you can see his mustache under the whiteface. There are seams in the clothing for both characters. The airbrushing is so good, it looks like there's texture even when there isn't.
I'll read the rest of this thread later, but I'm now almost at the end of part 3. What did Black Lightning mean by "so the Superman thing is real?"?
I guess that there was some question of whether or not Superman was real on what was Black Lightning's Earth.
(Although there was a mention of both Supergirl and Vixen in a previous episode of Black Lightning.)
Ok, I didn't know about Ezra Miller's cameo which I liked even though I have mixed feelings (at best) about the "Snyderverse".
(Although I would have preferred him appearing on the Flash and not Arrow but I suppose this worked out the best.)
And I wish they could have used the Trickster instead of Weather Witch.
I laughed when Beebo appeared.
Also note that the older gentleman asking Kara and Barry for autographs was Marv Wolfman.
So not only was the Universe reborn but it was the Multiverse albeit with some changes, mostly with Earth-1, Earth-38, and Black Lightning's Earth were merged into Earth-Prime.
All and all, a reasonable adaptation of the story for television that also happened to be a lot of fun.
In case you were wondering what Earth was what at the end:
Looks like they decided that matter + anti-matter doesn't result in annihilation in the last two episodes.
Anti-Monitor's wraiths weren't exactly the most fearsome group of henchmen. They could be hurt with a punch or a hit by a stick.
It'll be interesting to see how Stargirl is handled. DC Uuniverse's language choices are much more "spicy" than what appears on the CW.
All the superheroes are on the same earth now? Kinda cheapens future cross overs?
I know Lex Luther is a huge figure in the DC Universe but I spent large parts of this event hoping somebody would kill him.
They could have picked a more interesting, more familiar human paragon than the guy with the beard whose name I can't remember.
Any chance earth-12 is the new HBO Max Green Lantern series rather than the movie?
I had to go to Wikipedia to find out more about Ryan Choi. In the comics, he starts off as Ray Palmer's successor as the Atom. But there have been a few retcons since then. And Wiki says he's in the Flash TV series as the creator of Barry's future suit. So who knows which version of him they're planning to go with?
And yet they were afraid to throw the Anti-Monitor into the Sun. (Every second 5 million tonnes of matter is converted to energy in our Sun; nobody would notice if an Aniti-Monitor was added for one of those seconds.)
I'm in the minority here I guess, but wow-- I thought those last two episodes were bad. Like REALLY REALLY bad. I enjoyed the cameos, in particular the THAT Flash one, but it made no sense at all. I could barely follow it, and I've read the source material many times.
I thought they were really bad too.
Like the part where they created a new universe by focusing real hard?