Counterpart (Starz) Season Two *spoilers*

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    astrohip

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    **Discussion and spoilers for any episode that has aired on Starz**

    Good start to S2. It had been so long since S1, I wasn't sure I would remember anything, or even still be interested. Only took about five minutes and I'm drawn in. Again.
     
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    Rob Helmerichs

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    Looks like we're going to get inside Management this season.

    Daddy-o.

    I assume eventually we'll be going back to Prime...
     
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    So the recap made it clear that what Project Indigo has done so far is just the beginning, it is far more than forcing a closure of the crossing and an end to diplomatic relations between the two worlds.

    Maybe the reason Emily put the library book in a draw is that the book and library were being used as a dead letter drop and/or the book was used to decrypt a cipher. If I were Emily and fully recovered my memory at first I would not tell anybody,

    Interesting that the person with the Management Coms Box is not just a tech, he is a Management decision maker.

    If I were Naya Temple with the information she has already got I would be trying to find out who in Management first suggested that Peter Quayle be promoted. When the person with the Coms Box said "Management trusts you will come to them as soon as you have something". Naya said "Of course I will". I think Naya was lying she is smarter than that, the guy with the Coms Box is the last person she should/would go to.

    With information that Naya Temple hasn't got I would be asking why Emily Alpha had a miscarriage and Emily Prime didn't. Possible solutions include - different biological fathers; Emily Prime was able to arrange a secret adoption.
     
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    Rob Helmerichs

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    ??? I thought Clare made that perfectly clear last season (when Peter said "So it was all for this? Five years of marriage?" and she replied "Peter, it hasn't even begun."
    You mean Daddy-o? How else would Management communicate?
     
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    Anubys

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    What does Daddy-o mean? are you saying the one management guy we saw was Clare's father?

    How did we know that the guy with the camera was part of management? I missed noticing that...

    Is Lambert the ambassador?

    sorry, I should've watched the previous season to refresh my memory about things...
     
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    Rob Helmerichs

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    1) I thought so, although they avoided a clear look at his face.

    2) I'm not sure what you mean here. I'm also not sure what pgogborn meant, which might be where the confusion comes in. The guy with the camera was just a tech, through which Management was talking to the peons.

    3) No, Lambert is a fugitive. But he USED to be the ambassador. ;)

    4) Yes, you should have re-watched Season 1. :D
     
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    Tony_T

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    And Mira is alive?
    I'll miss Aldrich this season.
     
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    cherry ghost

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    That was not Clare’s father using the machine at the end.

    I think what it showed was that management is a group who are not all in the same location. There were four “Users” shown onscreen; Avalon, Weza, Keilberg, and Myxine. The guy we saw was Avalon.
     
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    Tony_T

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    Why does the tech guy listen to and communicate from Management?
    Why not just use a speaker and give everyone headphones?
     
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    Rob Helmerichs

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    Maybe so nobody will have a clue who they're speaking to..?
     
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    Tony_T

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    Then the guy doing the communicating isn't a lowly tech guy.
     
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    pgogborn

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    A tech does not get to be part of the Management decision making process, let alone deciding when the tele-conference has ended and having the last word. Maybe not just Management, maybe the Management top guy.

    Unseen Management people: We have to send them a message... Does everybody concur... Yes.. I do...

    The so-called peon: I agree. Signing off.
     
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    Rob Helmerichs

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    But that wasn't a peon.

    I referred to the people to whom Management was communicating through the tech guy as peons (Quayle, the new investigator, etc.). I didn't see the tech guy participating in the decision making process, nor did I see him necessarily deciding the tele-conference had ended. Unless I missed something, I think you're reading WAY to much into the tech guy, who to me seems to be just a tech guy.
     
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    Anubys

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    Um...so who's Mira?

    We still have the other Aldrich, right? we've never met him but Alpha talked about him...
     
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    Rob Helmerichs

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    Mira is the woman who ran the school in Prime. And yes, she's still alive...she chose not to participate in the mass suicide-by-cop she ordered for the rest of her people.
     
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    Tony_T

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    I thought he was killed. I recall Aldrich talking to Howard about remote chess matches with his other and then having to have him killed. Not sure though, all I remember is him talking about chess.
     
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    Tony_T

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    Why is he needed at all then?
    I think his position is higher than the people he is in the room with.
     
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    cherry ghost

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    One more layer to prevent anyone from finding out more about Management.

    No one else ever hears Managements voices. No one else knows if Management is one person or 100.
     
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    cherry ghost

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    That was not a peon signing off. He’s one of the people that make up Management.
     
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    Tony_T

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    And that layer is between Management and, i.e. Diplomacy, so that person is at a higher level than Diplomacy.
     

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