Cosmos: a Spacetime Odyssey

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by hairyblue, Jan 23, 2014.

  1. RGM1138

    RGM1138 I wanna Rock

    Oct 6, 1999
    Gulfport, MS


    :up: Conspiracy theories are much more fun, though. :)
  2. alansh

    alansh Active Member

    Jan 3, 2003
    Phoenix, AZ
    Sagan always said "billions" with a strong emphasis on the "b". He said he did it so it was clear he wasn't saying "millions", but it sounded a bit funny. Carson did take it and ran with it -- he frequently did sketches playing Sagan. He also had Sagan as a guest frequently, so it was just a friendly joke.
  3. Worf

    Worf Well-Known Member

    Sep 15, 2000
    Well, I guess there goes Cosmos. You can just hear the angry phone calls about it promoting evolution going out to senators and representatives to pressure Fox into cancelling the series for creating "controversy" and failing to acknowledge the "one true theory of intelligent design"

    Was good while it lasted, I suppose.
  4. jamesl

    jamesl Active Member

    Jul 12, 2012
    35 seconds of this video

    and this is also why I quit watching the new Cosmos
    Neil deGrasse Tyson just doesn't do this show justice

    I usually like his stuff
    for example, I LOVE this video

    but he just doesn't have the "presence", the "poetry" for Cosmos

    Sagan's voice and style made science and astronomy interesting to the average viewer, it made the the universe wondrous

    watching the above video of Sagan causes you feel the grandeur and beauty of the universe

    Tyson just doesn't do that
    Tyson gives facts, he makes it somewhat interesting, but there's nothing that makes me want to go out and by a "companion" book or even tune in next week
  5. hairyblue

    hairyblue A good Man

    Feb 25, 2002
    Mobile, AL


    I find it very entertaining and educational. Tyson does a great job.

    I don't think there would be too much religious outrage over this episode of evolution and natural selection. Don't we live in a country where if you don't like something on TV you change the channel? If enough people do that, then rating drop and it gets cancelled.
  6. loubob57

    loubob57 Cancer sucks! TCF Club

    Mar 19, 2001
    Bedford, TX
    I agree with your first statement.

    I'm having difficulty with your second one though. I think there will be a lot of outrage from some quarters, we'll have to wait and see how much pull those people have.
  7. pdhenry

    pdhenry Ruthless

    Feb 27, 2005
  8. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

    Mar 10, 2003
    New Jersey
    I haven't seen it yet, but I'm sure they (Fox) are anticipating the outrage. At least they should be. But, there's lot and lots on TV about the subject, and like someone said, if it outrages you, go watch something else. I don't like TV talent contests, and it "outrages" me that so much TV time is wasted showing that garbage...but I choose not to watch :)
  9. ScubaCat

    ScubaCat Shades of Blue......

    Jun 26, 2003
    N.E. GA
    There is a Cosmos App for iPhone and iPad (free) which contains a lot of the content of the shows. Beware the occasional (loud) advertisement that pops up unannounced.
  10. TheSlyBear

    TheSlyBear Opinionated Walrus

    Dec 26, 2002
    Austin, TX
    Is it just Time Warner, or is everyone seeing it letterboxed on National Geographic HD?
  11. Worf

    Worf Well-Known Member

    Sep 15, 2000
    Evolution isn't a tricky or controversial topic. It's the religious nuts that make it so. Mostly by demanding that "Intelligent Design" (really, an evolution of Creationism) be given equal airtime because the creator did it and it's "science". Of course, the episode inflames the issue by basically giving those people the smack down. And yes, lawmakers have passed the "Teach the controversy" laws that say evolution and creationism, err, Intelligent Design, be taught as competing "theories" in science class when they're presented. Some going so far as to make it an excusable topic in class (where the student may excuse themselves from learning evolution). None I believe actually ban the teaching of evolution, but some come close. And textbooks have reduced their evolution sections down because certain influential states (i.e., Texas) choose their books based on criteria like how well they cover Creationism/Intelligent Design.

    And wasn't it somewhere that a stupidly large percentage (30-505) of the American population believed Creationism was what really happened?

    The outrage comes from (ignorant) parents seeing their little Johnny getting corrupted by what is ostensibly supposed to be an educational program.

    And while Fox and the FCC will probably get some complaints that won't do a thing (because there was nothing wrong to begin with), it's the parents calling their senators and representatives to pressure Fox into "equal time" or cancelling the show. That's the scary part, not Fox/FCC getting complaints - but government putting pressure on Fox to censor the "controversial" content.
  12. ElJay

    ElJay Active Member

    Apr 6, 2005
    I'm a huge nerd and I was excited at the idea of a major network providing an hour of prime time to science programming... Sadly, the writing is so sparse and elementary, as if it's serving the animations instead of the other way around. I think I want to spend my 42.5 minutes watching something else.
  13. wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Well-Known Mumbler

    Aug 2, 2003
    I was ten when I first saw Sagan's Cosmos, and I didn't feel that it went over my head. But I can watch it again now, and still enjoy it.

    New Cosmos is OK, original Cosmos is easily one of the greatest shows ever on television.
  14. waynomo

    waynomo My One Time

    Nov 9, 2002
    TiVo has been a screwing up my recordings from the SP. It didn't record Sunday night and wasn't going to record next Sunday. Upcoming episodes when viewed from the original recording only showed upcoming show on Fox. It didn't show the rebroadcasts on NatGeo.

    I created another season pass and it looks okay right now, but I'm going to have to keep an eye on this.

    (Unless you all think this is a sign from god that evolution isn't real and I should stop watching. Poll to follow. :D )
  15. jamesl

    jamesl Active Member

    Jul 12, 2012
    more like a sign from God that Tyson sucks and Sagan rules
  16. jamesbobo

    jamesbobo with a grain of salt

    Jun 18, 2000
    Not letterboxed on FIOS in NJ.
  17. loubob57

    loubob57 Cancer sucks! TCF Club

    Mar 19, 2001
    Bedford, TX
    I don't get the hatred of Neil deGrasse Tyson as the host. I think he does a fine job. He is not Carl Sagan, but nobody is.
  18. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

    Mar 10, 2003
    New Jersey
    I had the same issue on DirecTV. Luckily, I noticed it wasn't recording early enough to go in and record another showing. My SP looks ok now, but I'll have to watch it
  19. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey TCF Club

    Mar 10, 2003
    New Jersey
    That's my feeling, but, I never saw much of the original. It's a different era and I think a lot of us are also conditioned to think that the original is usually better, and we look at things from a different perspective more than 30 years later.

    If the core audience of Cosmos is those not normally interested in science then I think he does a good job of explaining it on that level. I'm sort of interested in science, but not to the level of some folks here, so I feel he's talking a little beneath my knowledge level, but not where I feel insulted by it. That's a fine line to draw.

    I liked learning about Titan, the Saturn moon, that has liquid, rivers and seas and stuff, and he brought out the point that I always thought of. Who's to say that "life" has to survive on what life is like on earth? Why couldn't "life" on Titan breath methane and so forth?
  20. wtherrell

    wtherrell Active Member

    Dec 23, 2004
    How do you think God adjusts things? Makes changes? Makes it self adjusting. Evolution - - pure genius!
    Yeah, I think this new one is dumbed down a little & relies too much on the animation. Tyson doesn't exude anything like the passion Sagan did about his subject.

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