Convert season passes to title wishlists

Discussion in 'TiVo Series 1 - UK' started by mikerr, May 21, 2011.

  1. martink0646

    martink0646 New Member

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    You have to laugh!!! He just doesn't get it does he?

    Pete77 - "Hmm, I've got a problem & I want to save myself some time changing SP's but I can't be bothered, who could fix it? I know Mikerr & TCM could. Oh, but I've slagged them off in the past. Never mind. I'm sure they'll take some of their precious time to help me. With the time I'm saving I must read that book I bought, 'How To Win Friends & Influence People'."

    I'm now off to check the AltEPG forum to see how many posts Pete77 has made asking for help in swapping his TiVo over to a system he has publicly slagged off at every opportunity.

    Again, you've got to laugh. Not at Pete77 but at the people who foolishly waste their time helping this individual knowing that the odds are they will be stabbed in the back/slagged off etc. at some point in the future if they don't drop everything they are doing immediately & help him with his coding needs!

    I still can't belive that he's allowed on that forum after some of the things he has said. Dave's obviously a much bigger man than I am or maybe it's for the entertainment value?

    Martin
     
  2. Trinitron

    Trinitron New Member

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    No, but you can edit the wishlist SPs to change the quality settings.

    I haven't tried it but it looks like vseasonpass.itcl operates like the old Tivoweb script where there is a global SP quality option button at the bottom of the page.

    Alternatively, change the line

    set recquality [defaultval 100 [dbobj $sp get RecordQuality]]

    to

    set recquality 0

    and that should put all wishlists at quality 0 = basic.
     
  3. mikerr

    mikerr TiVoCentral.co.uk

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    The tivoweb module has an option to batch convert all season passes to a set quality
    (normally best - but any quality can be selected in a drop down list).
    Note this also affects the quality of auto-recording wishlists.

    So if you have no guide data:
    1. convert your SPs to wishlists with the standalone script,
    2. then batch convert all wishlists to basic(!) later using the tivoweb module when you have guide data.
     
  4. Pete77

    Pete77 New Member

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    Thank you very much Trinitron for proving that you are quite clearly a bigger person than some other forum members since heaven knows we do seem to have had some significant major disagreements of our own in recent months on here.

    For my own part limited and inadequate though my Tivo hacking skills are (especially when it comes to TCL where I have very limited understanding of the language) I would always attempt to help another forum member with a technical query here if and when I had the skills to do so. Those who don't do so remind me of the old bully gang in the school playground who will pick on certain people they don't like and only work with those who are part of their current in crowd.

    Thanks also to Mike for pointing out that his season pass to Wishlist script can be run again on Wishlists globally once the Tivo has gude data to alter their recording quality.

    Also with regard to re-using the existing Wishlists to generate the SPs compared to entering from scratch it isn't just the time involved but also the principle of losing the link with SPs that have some in cases existed for over eight years. Being able to use them to generate the Wishlist creates a much greater feeling of Tivo continuity even with the AltEPG.
     
  5. TCM2007

    TCM2007 New Member

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    Sorry Pete, could you say that again? You're so far away up there on your high horse I can't hear you very well down here.
     
  6. TCM2007

    TCM2007 New Member

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    Whereas no one can teach you anything about intentionally missing the point.
     
  7. Pete77

    Pete77 New Member

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    I think at this juncture we should be mindful of ozsat's requests to keep forum threads on topic.

    In fact I intend to remove a couple of my own posts which may possibly not have fully met that objective.
     
  8. Pete77

    Pete77 New Member

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    Getting back firmly on topic I have now run Mike's tcl utility and note that at the present time (pre Alt EPG migration) Tivoweb shows my former Seasons Passes as being both Season Passes and Wishlists in User Interface but I cannot view them through the Tivo interface due to those menus being inaccessible as a result of running out of Guide Data. I assume that when I convert over to Alt EPG that they will then only be shown as Wishlists as Guided Setup will discover no matching TMSIDs for them in the new EPG data and so hence get rid of them during the Guided Setup process?
     
  9. TCM2007

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    Guided Setup doesn't delete SPs, but they will become orphaned. You'll have to delete them. (Well, you won't have to, but you'll be creating a pointless processing load if you don't). the whole thing is a bit of a mess, esp. when you remember that wishlists are not the same as SPs.

    You really would be better recreating them from scratch IMHO.
     
  10. Pete77

    Pete77 New Member

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    Yes in theory to the purist I would be better off doing this but then I would be better off also using fresh hard drives and the AltEPG image.

    For now I fancy on struggling on with the current hard drives with my many existing recordings and seeing how the whole thing copes including what use it makes of old thumbs (I suspect the answer will be none).

    As my current hard drives really not should be that much longer for this world but my addiction to my Tivo is severe (despite my inability to gel with some members of the Tivo "in crowd) I am sure that in due course I probably will do a fresh install on a new hard drive. For now though carrying on in this imperfect way with my six year old hard drives seems a better bet. After all don't forget that the AltEPG is itself only an Alpha Test system. It would in my opinion be better to do a clean install when it has reached the end of testing and is a proven live system.
     
  11. TCM2007

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    Cleaning out a whole load of duff SPs and thumbs would probably make for a more stable system, without having to do a clean install.
     
  12. Pete77

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    I still largely have that option though as at any time I can still re-run Guided Setup again doing a Clear and Delete Everything (apart from programs in Now Playing) or just deleting Thumbs and the To Do list.

    For now I will see how things go with a minimum level Guided Setup conversion. If its all quite hopeless I can always do a Clear and Delete everything later on.

    At least I managed to get a network connection to the AltEPG server after discovering that for some reason the server connection had been changed to 192.168.1.1 in nic_config_tivo instead of the 192.168.0.1 my router setup required. This undoubtedly was to do with me temporarily changing the connection method from network to daily call to prevent account closed happening while I was running out the Tivo remaining data. Mike then gave me a further telnet command on the forum to just turn on Tivoweb access again (without re-enabling network for the daily call) but this seemed to confused nic_config_tivo when I changed the daily call type back to network today in nic_config_tivo.

    The bottom line is even I have now changed to the AltEPG as clearly a Tivo EPG is better than no EPG. I remain optimistic that in the long run the AltEPG will be even better than it is now in its current Alpha test version.

    I suggest that those of you who still completely object to our Tivo S1 Tribune EPG being cut off go along and give your views to the staff of Virgin Media at their Virgin Tivo stall on the concourse of Victoria Station for the remainder of this week (until July 29th). Their ludicrous suggestion in my case was that I needed to move house in order to get a Virgin Tivo:eek::mad::thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

    See my separate thread on this subject in this forum at http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=473381
     
  13. mrtickle

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    Here's a script to put quotes around a given wishlist. It's quick and dirty and the risk is yours etc but it may be useful to someone. I wrote it so that the Title Wishlist I ended up with for "Getting on", which has matched an episode called "Getting Back on the Catwalk " of a programme, would only match where the words from my original Season Pass title appear together.

    ie old wishlist: GETTING ON
    new wishlist: "GETTING ON"

    I've now converted all my title WLs that used to be SPs this way.

    NB it is wrapped in a 7z archive and then zipped.
     

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