Confirm please my "cable-card" assumption!

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by WVZR1, Oct 23, 2011.

  1. WVZR1

    WVZR1 Well-Known Member

    Jul 30, 2008
    The WV...


    I've 2 - Premiere XL machines, both with Comcast cable-cards. 1 is VAL: "V" the other is VAL: "?". Both machines do my basic cable functions and I have NO Premiums, seems fine and I'm quite happy.

    Will my cable-card(VAL "?") swap "without" a call to Comcast to an Elite machine and function as it does presently or will I need to call for a "pairing"?

    Since the new "outlet fees" and credits for cable-cards my billing seems to be right where I think it should be but if I were to call and they determined that I needed to pay the "outlet fee" for the second machine I have it would increase maybe, don't know. The install was done on a "truck roll" nearly a year ago and since it did what I needed it to do I just never questioned it.

    I assume it "should"! Yes/no? Any similar experiences?

  2. jrm01

    jrm01 New Member

    Oct 17, 2003
    Usually you can switch the card to a new machine and get everything except the Premium channels. Since you don't have any premiums it is certainly worth a try.
  3. jfh3

    jfh3 Active Member

    Apr 15, 2004
    Denver area
    Yes, you will not get any premium channels if the card has a validation state of "?". If that is not an issue, no issue in swapping the card.
  4. kdmorse

    kdmorse Well-Known Member TCF Club

    Jan 29, 2001
    Germantown, MD
    In theory, should work just as you expect, go for it.
  5. jfalkingham

    jfalkingham Member

    Jul 23, 2002
    New Hampshire


    Technically, if VAL: does not equal V, then its not paired. In your case, its not a big deal since you do not have premium channels. Keep this in mind though because you might do a PPV or some other premium sporting event, etc in the future and it will not work until the card is properly paired.

    I moved my CC from my premiere to the elite, same thing, all channels except Premiums. Once Comcast got out of their own way and set it up on the head end correctly, the VAL changed to V. I think this all stems from Tivo being a one-way device and the standard comcast tech puts it as two-way device on the head end.
  6. Jonathan_S

    Jonathan_S Well-Known Member

    Oct 23, 2001
    While it seems at the moment that your cable company restricts copy-protection to premium channels that might change in the future.

    I've seen reports of copy protection that vary from everything except the broadcast channels (FCC requires that those be unprotected), to only premium channels, to no channels protected.

    I just wanted to clarify that a premium channel doesn't automatically equate to a copy-protected channel. Any copy protected content requires a paired cable-card in order to be watched or recorded.
  7. WVZR1

    WVZR1 Well-Known Member

    Jul 30, 2008
    The WV...
    I'll likely give this a go very soon. I'd like to find a home for one of my Premiere XL machines before I spring for the Elite. It would be nice to also see the "streaming" in operation and maybe some of the other issues addressed first. I'd like four tuners in "one box" but I can actually work around that with the 2 Premiere machines I have presently. Do I need the Elite? Likely NOT!

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