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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Falkor, Dec 1, 2019.
You'll never convince someone with endless shelves of discs they'll never watch or petabytes of recordings they'll never watch that on-demand is ok. In reality, if you recorded something 4 years ago, and you haven't watched it yet, you're never going to watch it. So it doesn't matter if it's no longer available on-demand or not.
For most people, on-demand is fine. Yes, commercials are annoying, but they're not the end of the world. If your Comcast DVR is cheap or free and does everything you need, then go for it. But you'll get a lot of push back here in a Tivo forum, as you're well aware from the title of your thread.
Pushback is fine. Intelligent discussion is better. Rants of “Comcast SUX” and tangents are pointless.
Should Comcast ever provide Xfinity Stream as a TiVo app, I’ll run over that Flex box with my car. Until they get their collective **** settled, I sand by my opinion.
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They do have a Roku app that works ok.
Apple TV would be better.
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Why do people beat a dead horse ? Because if you try to beat a live one, it will kill you..
Are you suggesting that all the recordings I had on my 500GB Bolt box, the vast majority of which I never got to, are indicative that I never will get to the vast majority of recordings I have on my now 3TB Bolt box? Heresy, I tell you.
Putting that aspect aside, there simply are some shows that a recording is great for--those shows that appear once and then disappear into the ether. Catch the people bartering for recordings of Broadway musicals and plays that made a 1-day appearance on PBS' "Great Performances" or "Live at Lincoln Center," never to appear again per contract.
youtubetv even better I'd argue. unlimited tuners. unlimited storage. very simple. great pic quality. commercial skip works good. $50/mo. 3 simultaneous streams. 6 accounts. Each account has own recordings/UI.
i ditched tivo for it. been ~3 weeks.
Granted I don't have datacaps which could be an issue for some. Hardware to run dirt cheap and modern tvs have good enough hardware built into them these days.
Well, Comcast does suck, but they suck whether you use a TiVo or an X1 box to consume the suckage.
TELL US HOW YOU REALLY FEEL MAYBE - !!!!! I'll bet there's a place you're familiar with for you to place opinion!!
I'm just saying it like it is.... at least for TV. Their broadband is ridiculously overpriced, but it's pretty good relative to cable broadband.
Plus with a hardware DVR you have control, Live TV, SVOD, and cloud DVR's your control doesn't exist or can be taken away without notice. "The cloud", you can visit but you can't own it
If your recordings exist only as a single copy on a hard drive, you too can have them "taken away without notice" (by an HDD failure). I would trust the cloud more than that, unless your local storage is on an archival medium or uses RAID or similar.
You're not wrong about hard drives, but keep in mind that X1 stops working if it loses connectivity with the cloud. That can happen any time some drunkard takes down the poorly maintained power poles, and Comcast's cable goes with it. Or commercial power is lost to a your node, or Comcast's network has a problem, or a myriad of other reasons. One night, X1's cloud had some software issues that propagated throughout the system and my mom in Connecticut and her friend in Michigan were seeing the exact same error.
Yeah, I still trust my hard drive more than I trust a cloud service that can rotate shows out of availability on a whim, without notice. As well as, as you said, I always can back up more precious shows that are on my hard drive--with a cloud streaming service, nope.
But that's temporary. A failed HDD is a permanent loss.
Good point. But I wonder how many of the (presumably few) "precious" shows are completely unavailable by any other means if the cloud service stops providing them? For example the one-time-aired PBS shows that were mentioned. Doesn't PBS provide a way to buy them either on Blu Ray or via their Passport subscription? Sure it costs money, but your local storage costs money too. And so many Series episodes and movies can be rented or purchased, for example on Amazon. Ultimately I guess it's just a matter of personal preference.
It's a real-world concern: with some PBS special showings, PBS is prevented by contract from repeating the airing of the show or to offer the show in any way otherwise (e.g. via DVD or Passport). Presumably, this is for limited shows--in my experience, PBS' airing of some (but not all, and a lesser number) of Broadway shows/plays. Broadway producers seem to feel that widespread show electronic availability will cannibalize live show ticket sales. (Right--tell that to the owners of the rights to "Chicago.") There also may be multi-union issues.
As you mention, there's the frugality aspect as well--streaming services cost a monthly fee (typically). In contrast, my DVR recording not so, although there is the original investment cost plus backup media (if used).
In my mind, much of it comes down to control--I just don't feel I have it with a streaming service, and I don't trust my content in the hands of others. Having said that, I also see the benefits and practicalities of streaming services--not having to buy dozens or hundreds of sets of recordings of television series, and having them all available at the press of a button. In the end, I see a mix of both avenues as helpful.
LOL, couldn't possibly be the outrageous cost of the tickets.
what you do think these broadway producers will do once they read your post? They will make their shows available only via streaming.
Why is it wrong to speak the truth? Comcast's picture quality is awful. Tiling, shimmering, judder, judder and anything else that describes a crappy picture come to mind. I have seen true quality video on a channel or two but most of my lineup is a crime. TV's are getting better and my cable provider is getting worse. The occasional Blu Ray looks incredible as does most streaming. It's not my tv...it's COMCAST!!!