I have managed to avoid the oppressive copy protection flag for several years (looking at the dates this fiasco has been going on since 2006) I have 3 TiVos - an old 240 S2, a 540 S2 and a Dual Tuner. Love them all, enjoy watching things and transferring to my laptop and onto my iPad to watch while I travel which I do every week. I recently bought the XL - mainly for the integration with NetFlix and to watch some HD sport. I rarely watch recorded sport - enjoy the occasional watching of a past game but can live with the limitations just some of the stuff on this box. But concurrent with this my Motorola Comcast cable box failed and I was forced to replace it with an "Xfinity" box- HUGE mistake. The do not have any more regular boxes and you are forced to take a new box that - has no serial connection so back to the IR spaghetti unreliable solution - limited output choices to connect to - includes a CAT5 network port - WARNING - don't plug your home network in to this it takes over and screws up any router and DHCP you may have set up - lord knows what this is supposed to be for - Headache of setting up and a box that still does not work and I await a visit from an engineer This is linked to the 540 unit and now suddenly all of the shows I watch and my family watch are flagged copy protected and in many instances as soon as you start watching them they will delete in 24 hours! No transferring them upstairs to watch in comfort and god forbid I might copy them off and watch in the little time I have while traveling. And what about a family....take one example. My kids enjoy Tosh.0 as do I. THere are episodes of this on my TiVo that I will get round to watching at some point dating back months. No longer the case - it is copy protected. As soon as any one in the family watches an episode it will be deleted in 24 hours. So the message from Comcast is clear - we want your kids to watch TV on a regular basis. Homework be damned - you had better watch the TV when we blast it into your house otherwise you can't. In looking at the reports of this on this forum and on others it seems as if this is "not my problem" routine. TiVo reefers you to the cable provider (Comcast) in my case and Comcast to Tivo Is it just me or is this the death knell of Tivo unless they stand up and fight on behalf of their loyal customers. They won out on their patent infringement but if they just let this continued erosion of their tool set occur the product will be come just like any other DVR and the question then becomes why bother with Tivo....there are no advantages to making that investment over the subscription based poorer quality limited DVR from the cable company (hmmm wonder if this is the intention of Comcast) As for Comcast - poor service, crammed channels and lack of customer service I'd jump to Verizon in a flash if it was available and must now look at the other choices from other providers but I'm willing to bet they are all in collusion to limit customer choices. Not allowed to ask the obvious question - is there any way around this - so I won't ask that question. Instead I'll ask what are the solutions to what I deem reasonable legal behavior of recording programs and watching at a time and place of my choosing......?