COMCAST stalled implementing TIVO interface

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by alexcomp, Sep 12, 2007.

  1. alexcomp

    alexcomp New Member

    Sep 12, 2007
    A while ago I was hot to trot for the Tivo HD but heard Comcast would "soon" be implementing the TIVO gui on their boxes. Put project on hold. Recent conversations with Comcast employees indicate not to happen any time soon.


    The motorola hd dvr looks good - is it the same limitation of 1080i that the Tivo has? My Sony Grand Wega can do 1080p. Will the Tivo HD be at least as good as the Motorola HD DVR? I'm doing this for the superior user interface by the way...

    Irritating that two cards cost as much as the Motorola DVR, (maybe not true I see the cards come single or multi-stream). I'm assuming I can continue to run the Comcast box, hook up the Tivo with two cards and run it also giving me the capability of four simultaneous HD programs, yes?

    Are there other configuration options like running cable to the comcast box and through it to the Tivo thus eliminating the $6.95 each for the cards?

    Where's the forum for the Tivo hacks these days? My T2 was hacked years ago to 200 gig and has run perfectly. 160 doesn't seem enough. Can the external sata port be used for anything?

    What impact does HD recording have on Tivo desktop? Can I transfer HD content to Tivo desktop at higher quality? Can I burn from the desktop at higher quality?

    Anybody wanna buy a 200gig T2? Where can I post a for sale on this unit?
  2. blhirsch

    blhirsch Tivo-riffic!

    Mar 1, 2003
    As far as I'm aware, nobody is broadcasting in 1080p and aren't likely to do so for a while. The only things that take advantage of 1080p at the moment are the HD DVDs and Blu-Ray.
  3. shady

    shady Previously European TCF Club

    May 31, 2002
    Care to elaborate? What stalled?
  4. dkwong

    dkwong New Member

    Aug 27, 2007
    Union City, CA
    And Xbox360 and PS3 games.
  5. alexcomp

    alexcomp New Member

    Sep 12, 2007
    There was an announcement that Comcast and Tivo entered an agreement where the Tivo interface would be implemented on the Comcast boxes. Was supposed to take place toward the latter part of the year.
  6. shady

    shady Previously European TCF Club

    May 31, 2002
    No I didn't mean that, I meant what part of the agreement stalled. It's not the end of the year, so I was curious what you'd heard
  7. stream

    stream New Member

    Jul 25, 2007
    Comments below in bold

  8. alexcomp

    alexcomp New Member

    Sep 12, 2007
    Comcast is hot for internet phone and has back burnered the Tivo interface in favor of that. These are "asides" from a phone rep and a local comcast installer. No idea if they're "in the know".
  9. ah30k

    ah30k Well-Known Member

    Jan 8, 2006
    Total crap. First of all, phone has very little to do with the rollout of TiVo in any respect.
  10. bicker

    bicker bUU

    Nov 9, 2003
    There are Comcast customers already using the TiVo interface-powered Comcast DVR boxes. Comcast is applying a gradual roll-out -- the smartest approach to rolling out a new service. The best information is that the roll-out is currently limited to Comcast employees, folks most likely to be patient when they encounter problems and folks least likely to get online and whine about every problem. :)
  11. Revolutionary

    Revolutionary Too sleepy for TV...

    Dec 1, 2004
    Comcast's CEO just reiterated two weeks ago that they were moving forward with the Tivo rollout in the Northeast and would see wide distribution in Q12008. They are also going to fund OCAP certification for Tivo software on SA boxes in addition to Motorola. So its hardly time to start with the chicken little crap.

    Also, there is exactly ZERO reason to be concerned about 1080p on your DVR. None. In fact, if your DVR boasted about 1080p, you should be very, very skeptical and understand that you are being ripped off.

    [Rant] Yet another example of how the flat-panel manufacturers have duped the consumer public into believing that 1080p is the end-all and be-all of HD, and that if every single one of your components isn't "fully 1080p radical true HD," then you are missing out, so begin your Monk-like twitching and mumbling. [/Rant]

    Lastly, you should be aware that there is no TivoToGo or GoBack functionality on any HD Tivo product. So you could say that the "impact" of HD recording on Tivo Desktop is huge.
  12. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    HAs Comcast announced any idea of what pricing will be for their DVRs with the TiVo software?
  13. bicker

    bicker bUU

    Nov 9, 2003
    Announced? No. Rumors are getting more concrete though. Early on, a lot of folks were talking about $5 and up... now it seems like the price-point will be closer to $3.
  14. AbMagFab

    AbMagFab What happened, TiVo?

    Feb 5, 2001
    To be clear, this is in addition to the normal DVR price. Depending on how you do the math, that's $5-$15/month.
  15. aharris999

    aharris999 New Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Comcast, TiVo Move Ahead
    Service Coming 'Soon' To New England Subs; SA to Join the Dance
    By Todd Spangler -- Multichannel News, 9/3/2007

    Comcast, extending its partnership with TiVo, will fund additional development work to make TiVo’s digital video recorder software run on Scientific Atlanta set-top boxes and potentially other platforms.

    But TiVo, in reporting a bigger-than-expected second-quarter loss last week, also disclosed that Comcast has not yet begun rolling out TiVo service commercially. The companies will “commence the TiVo rollout process shortly” in Comcast’s New England division, which includes the metro Boston area, Southeast Massachusetts and New Hampshire, TiVo said.

    Comcast and TiVo have kept pushing back the date of their initial launch. In June, Comcast was supposed to begin offering the TiVo-branded service in New England by the end of this month. Prior to that, the cable operator expected to have TiVo-based DVRs deployed in a majority of its markets by the end of 2006.

    Meanwhile, TiVo earlier this month began the retail push for its $299 high-definition DVR, designed “exclusively for cable,” which the company said is now available through major retailers.

    But according to TiVo, growing demand for products like the new HD DVR also inhibited sales of the company’s existing Series 2 standard-definition DVRs, leading it to post a net loss of $17.7 million for the quarter ended July 31, compared with a previously projected loss of $5 million to $8 million.

    TiVo’s net loss for the second quarter included a combined inventory write-down and inventory purchase commitment charge of $11.2 million. The company reported revenues of $62.7 million for the period, compared with $59.3 million in the second quarter of 2006.

    “Increased consumer demand for high-definition products, which accelerated retailers’ movement toward high-definition sales, resulted in a continuation of the tepid trend in standard-definition sales,” TiVo CEO Tom Rogers said in a statement.

    For the same reason, the company ended the quarter with a net decline of 19,000 “TiVo-owned” subscribers. Overall, TiVo-owned subscriptions were 1.7 million, up 136,000 compared with a year ago. Subscribers through DirecTV, which no longer offers TiVo boxes, declined by 126,000 to stand at 4.2 million as of July 31.

    With the loss of DirecTV as a distributor, TiVo’s deals with Comcast and Cox Communications — which expects to roll out TiVo by the end of the year — are a key part of its growth strategy. In another attempt to win cable’s support, TiVo recently kicked off an initiative to provide front-line support for cable subscribers experiencing issues with CableCard installations.

    Comcast and TiVo, which originally struck their agreement in March 2005, first developed the DVR software for Motorola boxes. Through Jan. 31 of this year, Comcast had invested $16.2 million to back the development of TiVo DVR software on Motorola’s set-top box platform, according to TiVo’s 10-K annual report filing.

    The operator’s agreement to further develop the DVR maker’s software for SA set-tops and other platforms, according to TiVo, will “increase the distribution opportunities that TiVo will have available.”

    Comcast spokeswoman Jenni Moyer said the TiVo-on-SA project is “part of the ongoing work we’re doing with them to be able to eventually put TiVo onto other boxes.” She added that Comcast’s markets are roughly 75% Motorola and 25% SA infrastructure.

    Until the Comcast and Cox deals bear fruit, TiVo is counting on brisk sales of its $299 HD DVR to pull it back to breakeven (before interest, depreciation and amortization) for the fiscal year that ends in January 2008.

    Rogers, in the earnings announcement, said retailers like Best Buy and Circuit City are “enthusiastic about our new HD product” and are undertaking “more aggressive positioning of TiVo as a centerpiece to an HD media center.”

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