Comcast customer with a 652 or 658 box in Georgia, Illinois, or California?

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  1. TiVoMargret

    TiVoMargret VP Product Dev & Chief Design Officer, TiVo

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    Hi,

    If you have a TiVo HD with a TSN that begins with 652 or 658...

    AND you have Comcast in one of these cities: Atlanta or Augusta, Georgia; Chicago, Illinois; Fresno, Stockton, Santa Maria, or Sacramento, California...

    AND you'd be willing to help us test something...

    Then please send email to margret@tivo.com with the subject "Comcast and TiVo HD" and include your TSN.

    Thanks,
    -- Margret
     
  2. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

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    Any hope that you're going to see if the later S3s can do MPEG4?

    ;) :rolleyes: :D

    Not that it matters to me personally, since I'm stuck with TWC.

    Any chance you'd like to join me in an experiment to see if a Series2 Dual Tuner can use 2 cable boxes at once (well, actually a cable box and a DTA), one on the line inputs and the other on the RF input, if they use different remote codes?

    After all, it is supposed to be able to record 2 cable channels at once.
     
  3. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

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    Seriously, if y'all are doing what I think you might be doing with the somewhat long in the tooth 652/658s in those Comcast markets--

    :up::up::up:
     
  4. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    I wish I was in one of those areas as I would definitely help you. :)

    If this is what it seems to be, then that would make a lot of people happy (although it might make some people unhappy that went ahead and bought Roamio or Bolt replacements due to the Comcast MPEG4 conversion or upcoming conversion).

    And are you sure you can't test with 648's too? ;)

    Scott
     
  5. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

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    No, man, I need the price of 648s to keep dropping.
     
  6. joetucson

    joetucson New Member

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    I have a 652 (and 648) Tivo3's in Tucson, AZ. I just got them killed by upgrading to Comcast's X1 since I got a letter from Comcast saying they would be obsoleted by Dec. 1.

    Any chance of reviving them? I had to get a couple of their boxes since the TIVO went blank on every channel.
     
  7. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

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    If this experiment they're doing is what I think it is, the 652 might be usable again but probably not the 648.

    But we have no way of knowing how long it will be before they reach a point where they can say anything one way or the other.
     
  8. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    Has anyone in the target areas on Comcast with an HD sent Margret your TSN?

    Scott
     
  9. shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

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    Maybe she just forgot about the 648. They could also update the 648 to use one cable card.
     
  10. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

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    The 648 went into production before the M card specs were finalized, and cable labs did something that means the 648 can only use an M as an S. Apparently it's a hardware thing and software won't solve it. Otherwise I'm sure they'd have dealt with it long ago.

    I think I read somewhere that the 648 not being able to do MPEG4 is a hardware thing as well, maybe a 32 bit CPU instead of a 64.
     
  11. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    The 648 does have an MPEG-4 hardware decoder although it's a separate chip instead of being integrated as it is on the HD. The difference might be they actually have code from the Austrialian HD for MPEG-4 that they can adapt to support MPEG-4 for the US HD model.

    S3 OLED
    CPU: Broadcom BCM7038 system-on-a-chip, including the MPEG-2 decoder.
    Decoder: Broadcom BCM7411 MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 and VC-1/WMV9 decoder.
    MPEG2 encoder: 2 Broadcom BCM7042

    HD
    CPU: Broadcom BCM7401 system-on-a-chip, including the MPEG-2, MPEG-4 AVC/H.264, and VC-1/WMV9 decoder.
    MPEG2 encoder: 2 Philips/NXT SAA7138CHL

    Scott
     
  12. javabird

    javabird Well-Known Member

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    Cool. I'm in Seattle or I would offer to help. :)
     
  13. jscopes

    jscopes New Member

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    I just emailed Margret, I have an HD XL (658) in Chicago.
     
  14. gprellwitz

    gprellwitz Chicago Flier

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    I have a 648 in the Chicago suburbs and a 652 that has a bad hard drive. If I can resurrect the hard drive, perhaps using SpinRite, I might be able to help. I just got the letter from Comcast yesterday.
     
  15. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

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    Do you have another SATA hard drive of at least 160GB?

    We can hook you up with a 652 image.
     
  16. johnh123

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    Over there
    Did you hear anything? I emailed her a couple days ago.
     
  17. gprellwitz

    gprellwitz Chicago Flier

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    I probably have one lying around somewhere. Getting this going might be a "fun" :confused: thing to do while I'm on break next week.
     
  18. jscopes

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    I did not.
     
  19. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Wow! I'm shocked. Are they actually going to push out an update to the S3 units to support H.264? I thought all hope was dead for that. Maybe they're worried about losing too many subscribers?
     
  20. HerronScott

    HerronScott Well-Known Member

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    She didn't actually say what it was for but given the units and locations they are looking for, it seems like they might want to test it. :)

    Note that it's just HD models and not the original S3 OLED.

    Scott
     

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