Comcast Cable Cards No Long Compatible with VOD on Fiber Networks

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  1. Aug 4, 2018 #121 of 144
    astrohip

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    No UPS. I'll provide my own.

    Here are the stats on SNR etc. ..
     

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  2. Aug 5, 2018 #122 of 144
    JoeKustra

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    Put the TiVo on a UPS also. The Signal level is 100% and SNR is 40dB. Those are high, but if it works don't mess with it. You have RS errors, which could be caused by the signal being too hot. Again, if it works, don't fix it.
     
  3. Aug 5, 2018 #123 of 144
    astrohip

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    Thanks. I'm not even sure what "fix it" would entail, but yeah, if it works...

    I'm a big UPS believer. I put one on every TiVo DVR, and the router/modem setup. I'm also the guy who had his house wired with both CAT5 and antenna-fed coax, with dual drops at every TV. Just in case... (I hate missing my shows when there's a cable issue).

    One of the TiVos I moved is a 4 stream Roamio, that was on antenna. I had two TiVos (Roamio-6, Premier Elite 4) on cablecards, and one on antenna. I'm taking the Roamio-6, and converting the R-4 to cablecard (already ran GS, just waiting on the card to finish). I'm going to drop the Elite, it's just too slow for apps like Netflix. And use Minis for the rest of the TVs.
     
  4. Aug 5, 2018 #124 of 144
    chiguy50

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    Why so low? Don't you have the gigabit tier of service with your FTTH network?

    I have Comcast's asymmetrical hybrid fiber coaxial (HFC) gigabit service, and my speeds are typically ≈ 950Mbps down- and 42Mbps upstream.
     
  5. Aug 5, 2018 #125 of 144
    zalusky

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    Oh the days of my 128K ISDN service!
     
  6. Aug 5, 2018 #126 of 144
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    Still receiving on Comcast of Garden State NJ system. I wonder when I will Lose.
     
  7. Aug 5, 2018 #127 of 144
    astrohip

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    Wired or wireless? That was my wireless speed, which I thought was close to the adapters limit.

    IAC, it's overkill for me. No kids, not much streaming or downloading, only use about 50-75GB a month.
     
  8. Aug 5, 2018 #128 of 144
    chiguy50

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    Oh, OK. Now I understand.
     
  9. Aug 6, 2018 #129 of 144
    astrohip

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    Does raise an interesting point though. I'll hook up an Ethernet cable to one of the switches, and see what kind of speed I can get.
     
  10. DigitalDawn

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    We had a cable meeting with Comcast area reps last night.

    After calling them out on their comments from the last time -- No QAM/cable-card capability on Fiber-to-the-Home installations -- they admitted that QAM is still in place for now.

    They confirmed that the company is on its way to an IP-only architecture and told us that the conversion should be completed in 18 months or so. The rep did seem to think that there was a TiVo solution that was being worked on, but didn't have any more info on that.
     
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  11. mdavej

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    Interesting. But I still think they're blowing smoke on the timeline. No way they're going to replace 20 million boxes in the field within 18 months when they haven't even started yet. Is there a single IP box deployed yet? I haven't heard of any. Haven't even seen an FCC filing for one on the drawing board. Also, wouldn't that cost literally a billion dollars in hardware alone (assuming $50 per box)?

    EDIT: They made a similar claim in early 2017 that never came true:
    Rumor: Comcast may go all-IP for new subs by year-end
     
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  12. jlb

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    exactly. And 20 million in 18 months....I'm SURE they can swap 900,000 a month.....there are tons of techs, right? ;)
     
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  13. schatham

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    This. They are still giving out SD cable boxes, which means lots of people still have a SD TV.
     
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  14. mschnebly

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    They just had me come in and switch my X1 for their new X1 4K UHD HDR box. I dont even have a 4K TV yet. I like it because it's smaller with just one small light on the front.
     
  15. ashipkowski

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    As has been mentioned on this forum, the X1 boxes are already IPTV-capable, so the X1 installed base does not need to have hardware changed.
     
  16. NashGuy

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    Exactly. It's been awhile since I've seen a report from Comcast in terms of X1 penetration. But per this report, it looks like X1 went from accounting for 30% to 48% of Comcast TV subscribers from late 2015 to year-end 2016, with a goal of driving that number into the low 60s by year-end 2017. So here we are about 20 months later. What might the % be up to now? 65%? 70%?

    Also, I haven't seen any figures on how much traction their new Xfinity Instant TV service -- which is fully IPTV (no QAM) accessed via Roku and mobile devices -- is getting yet. (This is an $18-including-fees skinny bundle with limited cloud DVR, i.e. their attempt to attract cord-cutters/nevers.) But they have been advertising it in as a package with cheap broadband service for new customers at promo rates, sometimes even throwing in a year of Showtime, Starz AND Cinemax for free. Customers on other traditional TV packages also have the option, I believe, to use a Roku on secondary TVs instead of a regular Comcast STB at a savings of $2.50 per month (same as if a CableCARD device is used in place of a Comcast STB). After a year on the market (which will happen in a few months), could Xfinity Instant TV comprise 5% of Comcast TV subs?

    So just through churn/attrition, what percentage of Comcast's TV subscriber base is now on IPTV-capable hardware, I wonder?

    Still, there are a significant number of non-X1 STBs deployed, including all those SD-only STBs. If they're still giving those out right now, that does make one wonder how serious they might be about a full QAM cut-off in 18 months.

    We'll know that a full switchover to IPTV and away from QAM isn't too far away if they stop giving out QAM-only (i.e. non-IPTV) STBs and begin a recall of QAM-only hardware from the field. I tend to think we'll see Comcast deploy their own cheap IPTV-only STB (without a hard drive since it would exclusive use cloud DVR) that basically only runs the same Xfinity Stream app that they have on Roku, probably with both HDMI and component A/V ports (like the Roku Express+ has) so that they can be used with older TVs. Per this post from a guy in AL, it sounds like Comcast has possibly started deploying such a box.
     
  17. DigitalDawn

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    Is it possible that the Comcast rep meant his area specifically? Would Comcast necessarily have to do it nationwide?
     
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  18. NashGuy

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    Yeah, very possible that he was just talking about your specific region. Comcast often rolls out changes -- such as the upgrade to DOCSIS 3.1 -- on a regional basis. But once they make or begin the change in one region, they tend to do it in the others fairly soon rather than drag it out over multiple years to get the whole country upgraded.
     
  19. haniwa202

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    I had X1 for awhile until I was able to get my Roamio Pro set up at that location. If X1 had the skip and fast playback features of Tivo, I'd probably keep it. You also cannot program recordings away from home. For now, I'll stay work Tivo.

    Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk
     
  20. TKnight206

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    I like the old "blue with yellow menu highlights" for the Xfinity On Demand app on my TiVo. It's way better than the mess that On Demand is on the X1. Trying to find the purchases section on the X1, a hassle. Trying to find specific shows without using the voice remote on the X1, a hassle. Whatever happened to simplicity with options? I do miss being able to search within On Demand itself, just for On Demand videos.

    I for one loved the interface of the legacy Comcast DVRs. I sort of miss it. I do enjoy six tuners and the TiVo interface, but there is so much the Roamio lacks that my legacy Comcast DVR provided. More sound options (audio compression, mono, etc.), toggling captioning with a single button push (no two-second hold), ability to skip five or 10 minutes in On Demand rather than having to play for 40+ minutes to watch a few seconds of something that I missed on a live recording. Okay, those aren't necessarily interface related, but I wanted to put that out there.

    I hope TiVo will work with Comcast at providing a way that we can record things on fiber and still use the same Encore interface without the need of an app. You know, like My Shows, folders, etc., that'd be great. But I don't want to use an app.
     

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