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Colony - Season Two Thread *spoilers*

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by astrohip, Jan 12, 2017.

  1. Family

    Family Well-Known Member

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    That was my first reaction, but a whole lot could have gone wrong. Perhaps it was staged and leadership didn't care what the outcome.
     
  2. Steveknj

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    One thought I had about the "HOSTS" is that they are ultimately humans who are controlling everything and they aren't alien at all. There seems to be a core group of "controlling" humans who are tasked with doing the Host's bidding, but the feeling I get is that when the insurrection starts to get too close to the truth this is when they get nervous. And when it starts to get unsustainable, then the nuclear option of renditioning LA has to be done. The RAPs are also man made. Then you have all the brainwashing that is going on with "The Greatest Day". We've seen so many instances in our history where religion is used for brainwashing and the lack of explanation for something. Brainwash people to have faith and they will stop asking questions or will accept the answers given to them by those in power. It's when that power is questioned that we get the type of things we are seeing in Colony.
     
  3. RGM1138

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    I've had fleeting thoughts that the RAPs might be humans, or rather, what humans have evolved into, from the distant future. Maybe uploading their consciousness into metal bodies. But, for the life of me, I can't imagine why they would come back and kill their own past.

    But, there's no way in hell that the hosts are current humans. The tech used to fly the walls into place should prove that.
     
  4. dcheesi

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    My thoughts exactly (thunder stealer!! :p ;) ).

    Maybe they're trying to avert some disaster in their/our future by altering the past, and they don't mind killing 90% of 21st-Century humanity to do it. That would explain why they kept some humans around instead of wiping us all out on Day 1, and why they seem to be collecting certain "specimens" in pods for transport off-world.

    EDIT: Of course the same could hold true for hyper-advanced aliens. Either way, they might consider humans in our current form to be too primitive to be worth valuing individually (and/or not ready to handle the truth about what's coming).
     
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  5. Rob Helmerichs

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    Plus how freaked out and terrified human upper-level management is of the Hosts...
     
  6. RGM1138

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    Yeah, advanced aliens could
    consider us as animals or low intelligence beings.

    If it is future "humans", I'd hate to think they've moved into a state where people are no longer valued as human beings. And, considering what this story has been about so far, (man's inhumanity to man), it seems plausible that the RAPs could be our distant descendants.
     
  7. RGM1138

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    That too. :D
     
  8. dcheesi

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    One thought: if the RAPs have digitized consciousness, they may be effectively immortal. Given that, they might judge the value of a few more years in a human individual's finite lifespan much differently than we do.
     
  9. RGM1138

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    Upon further thought, if these are future Earthers, their present has already unfolded as it should have. If they came back, it could cause a paradox that would explode their own present.

    Then again, we may be way overthinking this whole thing. Cuse may have decided that the Hosts were only coincidental to the story and leave them as faceless beings and we never learn what they are.
     
  10. stellie93

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    Thinking of how time travelers usually are very careful to change nothing, or nothing more than the one thing they came to fix, these guys are wrecking balls to the time line. I don't think that's it.

    Not really that surprising that a race as advanced as they seem to be would have AI's to do simple tasks. I'm still hoping to see the real aliens.

    Have we really had any explanation of the "greatest day?" Are they claiming to be gods? Or are they just going to make life much more pleasant and easy for humans, which they probably could do if they wanted to. (which they obviously don't)
     
  11. Rob Helmerichs

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    I think it was just a way to pacify the sheep...
     
  12. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    Snyder is definitely playing both sides, as he has always done. At the moment, he feels that being loyal to the Governor General is his best bet, so he's using the Bowmans, giving them what they want and giving them just enough rope to make it seem like he's on their side, and then the tracker will call in the RAPs and Snyder will be revealed to be a traitor.

    But my guess is that the resistance on the outside will show up just in time and there will be a big battle and the Bowmans will be spared and will retain possession of the Gauntlet and that will be the basis for the S3 plot, with the Bowmans working with the outside resistance.
     
  13. stellie93

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    Right, but what did they actually tell them that so many of them fell for. The book that the tutor had for the kids... They never went into detail about it for us, did they? What could they possibly have promised them??
     
  14. RGM1138

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    I'd like to see the Bowmans, or anyone really, interacting with the defecting RAP, but I kinda doubt that we will.

    Since the family is on the run now from the Authority, Hosts, SS, er, Blackjacks - basically anyone in black, red or silver, life will be pretty grim, I'm guessing.
     
  15. dcheesi

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    Piecing the clues together, it seems pretty clear that, at a minimum, they promised a new life on another world for the chosen faithful.

    Essentially not that different from what we suspect is going on with the pods and the list Bowman Sr. was on, except that the RAPs' selection criteria doesn't seem to have anything to do with whether you're a believer or support their agenda.
     
  16. JYoung

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    1. The RAPs are either AIs or some type of biological life that's contained in those spheres and use the robot bodies to get around.
    Since they appear to need the cold rooms though, I'm leaning towards biological as machines shouldn't have big issues with the higher temperatures of Earth.

    2. My guess is that they are attempting to build some type of slave labor force (which might include combat) for some as yet unknown reason.
     
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  17. RGM1138

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    They seem to have a fairly proficient combat force in their splatter-drones. And that doesn't even count the menacing looking space craft hovering over LA at the end of the finale.

    And with the RAPs, you'd think they could build anything they need. I wouldn't expect that slave labor built the wall.

    Of course, I could be wrong. And I'm not even sure that the show runner has decided on what he wants them to be yet.
     
  18. dcheesi

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    1. Actually heat dissipation is a major issue for many supercomputers. It might very well be that artificial 'brains' function better in the cold. Meanwhile, most biological systems work better at warmer temperatures (up to a point).

    2. I can't see the Factory and its workforce as their endgame, though I'm also not clear on what their goal there actually is. Maybe building the (ahem) colony ship to take Bowman, Broussard, et al to some new homeworld?
     
  19. wprager

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    Finally finished watching last night. The "total rendition" is being described as rounding everyone up and sending then to the Factory. I assumed it would be just wiping everyone out. The amount of time and energy to send several million people to the moon, to day nothing of the energy required to sustain them up there just doesn't make sense. I think people are sent to the Factory to work until they die. They just supply oxygen and maybe water.

    Anyhow, those menacing ships looked like they were extending the barrels of some cannons. Mass extermination make a lot more sense.

    Anyone notice a bunch of red hats being led at gun point at the concentration camp? What was all that about? Breaking ranks? Would go along with what happened at the wall later.

    When Snyder was taking to his lady boss, whenever the camera switched to her its held at an angle. Reminded me of the old Batman show where the bad guys' lair was always shown at a slant. Is this a clue that Snyder is "good" when compared to his boss?

    Clearly Snyder activated some kind of tracker. But still not clear who was on the receiving end of the signal. I'm surprised he took lady boss at her word regarding his daughter. Could be he tasked someone to get her out and this was to help them get reunited. I guess I just want Snyder to be good.

    Can't wait for S3.
     
  20. mrdbdigital

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    It's hardly "several million people". LA is almost deserted in the show after the initial attack.
     

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