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Colony - Season Two Thread *spoilers*

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by astrohip, Jan 12, 2017.

  1. RGM1138

    RGM1138 I wanna Rock TCF Club

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    A couple of things that bothered me, when Laura Innes was giving her "You're either with us or you're dead" Red Hand speech, it sounded more like ISIS than patriots. They've clearly gone too far.
    When dumbass Bram killed the SS official, he left his fingerprints and DNA in the dead guy's blood on the window. WTF? Does he want his whole family hunted down and killed?
    When the ambassador is being attacked, he has to call for instructions on how to use a gun? That's just stupid.
     
  2. cheesesteak

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    What's that saying? "One man's freedom fighter is another man's terrorist."

    I think the ambassador called for instructions on what to do during an attack. The gun instructions were extra. In all honesty, I might need instructions, while under duress, on how to load a sawed off shotgun since I've never shot one.

    The Red Hand people don't mess around. The give Bram a murder assignment on his first day on the job.

    The Bowmans need to change their last name to McMurderers. Poor Gracie, I wonder who she's going to murder when she grows up. Seems to be a dominant family trait.

    I bet Maddie wishes she were an only child. Her sister's family keeps crapping on her.
     
  3. RGM1138

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    The terrorists' mantra.

    If he was as important as I think he was supposed to be, there should have been guards on the grounds.
    He should have also already known about the safe room the security directorate was telling him about.
    Under duress is probably not the best time to learn how to load and use a weapon. As evidenced by the ambassador's bullet-riddled corpse. ;)
     
  4. cheesesteak

    cheesesteak Meh. TCF Club

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    I really like this show. Hope it gets renewed or picked up by another network.
     
  5. RGM1138

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    I just hope they reveal what the RAPs really are before it ends.
     
  6. stellie93

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    So he's an ambassador from Europe or somewhere? Why would the aliens let us communicate with each other? Is he an ambassador from them? I don't get it, but I loved Bran shooting him. He was such a wimp. Who wouldn't have a gun in your pocket in this situation????
     
  7. RGM1138

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    I don't know if they specifically mentioned it, but I believe he was part of the Colony Transitional Authority, but seemingly from a European Bloc.
    I'm not sure where he was on the food chain, if he was over Proxy Helena or not.
     
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  8. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give 'em Hell, Devils

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    When the ambassador called to check in on the sat phone, he spoke German. Most Germans would have zero familiarity with a gun unless they had served in the military, and someone in the political class like him is unlikely to have served in the military, so I found that scene pretty realistic. I don't think he specifically called for instructions on how to use a gun, but the fact that he seemed a little unsure of himself while holding and loading it rang true to me.
     
  9. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Raconteur TCF Club

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    What was that opening scene? Are the Hosts AI?

    And was what Snyder activating at the end? A tracker? Something else?

    Fare Thee Well Maddie.
     
  10. RGM1138

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    Yep, it was a bot. But, in humanoid form. Maybe to do the grunt work for the higher functioning box AIs up in the mother ship.
    Which may answer the question as to why one of the humobots wants to defect, to escape the main AI brain(s).
    I notice Snyder didn't really make his daughter his main concern during his escape. Yeah, the Gov-Gen said she'd already sent her ahead, but who can believe her? She wasn't even gonna tell him about the rendition.
    No telling what the key fob was. It was signaling something to somebody.
    Poor Maddie. She got screwed and then she got screwed.
     
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  11. RGM1138

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    BTW, they kept saying that the leftovers would be going to the moon. That's not happening. The whole bloc is about to be nuked from orbit. Or, splattered from high altitude.
    Now that we know the RAPs are bots, they probably aren't eating humans. The "factory" on the moon is just a metaphor for a death camp. But, why the moon? Seems like a long way to go for something they could accomplish in the desert outside LA.
     
  12. Rob Helmerichs

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    I wonder if the "Hosts" are machines that remotely host the real aliens' consciousness from...orbit? Homeworld?
     
  13. astrohip

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    BTW, Colony has been renewed for a third season.

    (Can't remember if this was posted already, and too lazy to scroll up and check.)
     
  14. RGM1138

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    That seems absolutely plausible and very likely true. It's what we do, send smart machines to other worlds that are too dangerous for us.

    What concerns me is that Cuse is apparently so enamored with telling a Nazi occupation allegory with only a veneer of alien invasion, that we may never learn the true nature of the RAPs.

    The human race will live or die. Not because of an external force, but by what we do to ourselves. We have met the enemy and he is us, is I think, the tale that Cuse wants to tell.

    The series could end with a shot of the Earth from space. Humanity's fate is in its own hands, the ships slowly leave orbit and we never find out who or what the aliens really are.
     
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    I don't think we've seen the last of Maggie. Why else would they keep showing her after she was abandoned by her husband unless there is more to her fate? This, of course, does not follow if they nuke LA from orbit. :)
     
  16. wprager

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    I think the "rendition" will be blocked by the Rap who (that?) defected.
     
  17. RGM1138

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    Maybe. If it gets the gauntlet that the Bowmans have inexplicably been able to hang on to despite incredible odds.
     
  18. dcheesi

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    Wow, so much speculation to disagree with, where do I begin? :)

    The RAPs are AI, yes. I don't think that they are just proxies (ahem) or remote-control for the real aliens --if they were, why would losing one of them matter so much? The dialogue made it clear that the RAPs were ready to follow through on nuking the city if that one host "died"; that's the kind of action you take when one of your own is killed, not when one of your RC toys gets damaged.

    Snyder activated a tracker, presumably for the benefit of the blackjacks. Which makes sense, because a true defection would have put his daughter's life in immediate jeopardy. The only part that didn't jibe was why he waited until they were outside the block before activating it, especially with all the trouble they had at the gate; I can only assume that the blackjacks are more interested in tracking down the outside resistance group (and/or the defecting RAP) than in the gauntlet itself.

    Personally I took the allegory here to be about our occupation of Iraq/Afghanistan, rather than Nazis. There were a few hints of this, like the "Green Zone" (same name we use for safe zones in our occupations). On the other hand, the Factory is pretty clearly a Nazi-style "labor camp" death camp, so maybe it's all of the above?

    BTW, the Factory is not a fantasy; we've already been shown scenes (in S1) of people working in the Factory up on the moon, and being hauled away when they become too ill to work. I agree that a need for human labor makes no sense for a machine civilization, especially in space where just maintaining habitable conditions must be a chore, but they must have their reasons...
     
  19. Rob Helmerichs

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    But if their consciousness is in the RAP when it's destroyed, then the alien is dead as well...no consciousness to return to their body.
     
  20. ellinj

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    Unless these machines are either conscious AIs, or some sort of race that his evolved to the point where they live in the machine. Recovering the RAP was important for one of their own to continue living.

    I was thinking that the events at the gate was staged.
     

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