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C'Mon Tivo! Picture in Picture

Discussion in 'TiVo Suggestion Avenue' started by heifer624, Nov 19, 2015.

  1. heifer624

    heifer624 New Member

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    My Tivo has six tuners and I can only watch one at a time. C'Mon Tivo! give me some Picture in Picture so I can watch multiple ball games at the same time. PiP has only been around since the late 70's. C'Mon Tivo!
     
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  2. Saturn_V

    Saturn_V Now with flavor!

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    PiP? what is this the middle-ages?:D

    Stream to a tablet instead?
     
  3. tomhorsley

    tomhorsley Well-Known Member

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    That would be nice, but you can only stream things that are recording. So let's modify this request - make the tablet apps use the same feature the mini uses and allocate a tuner for it so I can surf on the tablet.
     
  4. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I'm actually shocked they haven't done that yet. Seems like a no brainer.
     
  5. krkaufman

    krkaufman TiVo shepherd

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    Yes, PiP would be nice.

    In the meantime, if your TV offers PiP, you could maybe get a Mini and install it at the same TV.
     
  6. Bytez

    Bytez Member

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    This would differentiate Tivo even more from the competition! This is really a no brainer. Wish I had asked the question when they had the Q&A last time.
     
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    ccoulson

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    Hate to resurrect an old thread, but I would love to see PIP from my Tivo. I just used a Dish Hopper that has PIP built in- fantastic for watching multiple games at once and switching between the two. As others have said, this seems like a no-brainer. The Tivo units have multiple tuners and they already do a PIP-like functionality allowing you to continue to watch a show while accessing Tivo menus.

    Has there been any word on this in the past year?
     
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    philco782

    philco782 New Member

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    i would LOVE this!
     
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    tomhorsley

    tomhorsley Well-Known Member

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    Heck, with the 4K bolt and 4K TVs, I ought to be able to watch 4 1080i channels at once in the 4 corners of the screen :).
     
  10. fcfc2

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    Add my name to the list for PIP. It would be great when trying to keep up with concurrent sporting events.
     
  11. mlsnyc

    mlsnyc Active Member TCF Club

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    I'd love to have this as well.

    I wonder if showing what's on 2 tuners at the same time has posed some technical challenge. I don't see what that could be, since I can watch a recording on my iPhone app and people can stream to multiple minis at the same time the main unit is playing live tv or a recording.

    But it's likely just low in priority for whatever reason.
     
  12. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I still don't get the appeal of PIP. Why try and watch two things as once when you can just record the second thing and watch it later?
     
  13. jrtroo

    jrtroo Chill- its just TV

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    The only use case I would have is to avoid NFL spoilers if two teams are playing at the same time. The scores at the bottom ruin things, and putting up a piece of cardboard is annoying and prone for forgetfulness.

    If this was an easy feature for Tivo to add, they would have done it. So either its difficult or they are hardware constrained.
     
  14. mlsnyc

    mlsnyc Active Member TCF Club

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    For me, watching 2+ live sporting events at the same time.
     
  15. TonyD79

    TonyD79 Well-Known Member

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    Mostly because a lot of us don't treat sports like a scripted TV show or movie. They are meant to be watched live or near live. For me (and many others) watching a recorded sporting event is just blech.
     
  16. Mikeguy

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    Here's a work-around: 2 TiVo's attached to a P-I-P TV. ;)
     
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  17. TonyD79

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    That's why I have a mini setting in the same cabinet as my bolt.
     
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  18. Mikeguy

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    Clever--pick up a Mini on the cheap and use it for this purpose. ;)

    I'm doing the same right now with a Series 2 TiVo, in the short-term: recently purchased a Roamio to replace/augment a Series 2 and saw the Series 2 just sitting there, and then got the idea to leave it attached to the TV along with the Roamio, allowing for P-I-P via the TV's P-I-P function (the tuner in the TV itself had fritzed out long ago, and so the TV is more a monitor at this point). Works great and is pretty cool, although, candidly, the only time I've used the P-I-P thus far was when I set the Roamio up, watching the setup go forward in the P-I-P box while still watching a show in the main frame.
     
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  19. davidblackledge

    davidblackledge Registered l√úser

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    I'm no TiVo Hardware guy, but I figure there are two ends for the signal: the end that handles the signal and can save it to disk, and the end that can render it to the screen (at whatever size - thus the PIP in menus is no big deal). So I figure TiVo has been building with a single "second" end since the beginning of time, and has just been adding more "first" ends for multiple recordings.

    The other technique would be to generate a new video stream on the fly that contains both sources, but that would use up a lot of computing power or some expensive chip designed for that purpose.


    They could always produce another device with multiple "second" end renderers, but that would likely add a lot to the price for no conceivable purpose except PIP which is a bit of a niche feature even in the TV industry.

    And with the Mini + TV with PIP option, they have zero reason to produce it when they could just tell you to buy more of their existing products.

    I too wonder what the technical issue is between a Mini watching a tuner and streaming requiring recording. Picture-on-Tablet (POT?) makes so much sense.
     
  20. lifterguy

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    Dish Network's VIP 722 DVR has PIP, and it was first introduced 9 years ago. Do Direct TV boxes or cable company DVR's offer this? Could TiVo's reluctance be a patent issue? Or maybe they just don't want to add any more buttons to the remote?
     

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