Chromecast with Google TV

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  1. Oct 7, 2020 #121 of 548
    Tony from the corner

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    Interesting, both of my real Chromecasts were doing it quite often. Now tonight, I checked one extensively and it is not taking time to reload the homepage.

    I didn't check the other one yet it's at the back bedroom.

    I purposely was diving into apps hitting the home button to see if it had to take time to restore the home screen.
     
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  2. Oct 7, 2020 #122 of 548
    AussieFigjam

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    At then end of the day I'm just guessing, but if you report an issue, Google will want something to help diagnose, like a repro test case. If my theorry (or complete guess) is correct, you should probably look at the app sizes and find the biggest app, and then start that one up, and play something, then try to switch to another app without loading the home screen (e.g. by hitting the google button and saying "launch netflix"), do this a few times so that you have launched at least 3 or 4 apps without going back to the home screen, then hit the home button and see what happens. I would expect, as you jump between apps, the launcher gets pushed futher and further back in the priority list.

    You didn't, by chance, reboot the one that started working did you? If the problem is caused by something like LMK, then you will need to put a lot of pressure on the memory so that it kicks in, and if you reboot, the cache will get reclaimed and everything will run fine again.
     
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  3. Oct 8, 2020 #123 of 548
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  4. Oct 8, 2020 #124 of 548
    blackngold75

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    Thanks for the tip. I found the bundle in stock, so I figured "why not?". I subscribe to Netflix already, so with the bundle the cost of the device is about $12! May be a while before I see it, though: the order details indicate that I won't receive it until early November.
     
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    krkaufman

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    Same thinking I had (already sub’d to Netflix), and it would let me kill the YouTube TV experiment before I make my first payment (losing that promo path to a CCGTV), if we find it lacking.

    And, yeah, my order said Nov 3-4 arrival.
     
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  6. Oct 8, 2020 #126 of 548
    AussieFigjam

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    I had a thought that this might be down to a memory leak in another app. Memory leaks are common in programming, but much less common on Android, Java does automatic garbage collection, so it shouldn't usually happen, but sometimes it does, especially of the program drops out to C or some other language to do something. Anyway, a memory leak is where the code allocates memory from the system, and then "forgets" about it (the code no longer holds a pointer to the memory location), this memory is still allocated to the program according to the kernel, but it will never be used. Over time, the program does it again and again, and eventually balloons in size to consume most of the memory on the system, forcing a low-memory situation; which is where the LMK will kick in. This would be a design flaw on the part of the Google TV launcher; it is probably expecting that it will never get killed by LMK because of its high cache priority, but there are circumstances beyond its control which force this (welcome to the world of time-sharing multi-process operating systems).

    So the upshot here is that it may just happen over time, and it may only happen if you continually run the program that has the memory leak. If you see it happen again, try to identify which app you have been using most commonly since you last rebooted.
     
  7. Oct 9, 2020 #127 of 548
    Alex_7

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    My new chromecast is down to 1GB free internal storage space.. I think its time to invest in a hub to expand my storage.
     
  8. Oct 9, 2020 #128 of 548
    krkaufman

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    So no SD slot for expanding storage?
     
  9. Oct 9, 2020 #129 of 548
    markp99

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    You might consider getting a hub that also includes an Ethernet port. For me, that'd be worth more than extra storage space. I typically do not load much more than the basic apps, even on my ShieldTV with has 2 USB ports on the back. I have not explored, but there may be adapters that provide Pwr, USB & Ethernet via USB C.

    This is similar to what I had in mind:

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  10. Oct 9, 2020 #130 of 548
    Alex_7

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    No
     
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  11. Oct 9, 2020 #131 of 548
    Alex_7

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    Yes, I'm also planning on hard wiring my connection, so a hub with both usb ports and ethernet would be ideal. Can you send me the amazon link to this hub?
     
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    markp99

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    moyekj

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    I finally see what you guys are talking about. Ran into it once yesterday pressing Home button to exit from Netflix on the Chromecast. Took a few seconds to properly refresh the Home page. It only happened once and trying a few more app launches and home button presses I couldn't replicate it again. Anyway, does seem like a somewhat random bug that hopefully will be corrected in a future update. Haven't seen the issue with TS4K, so +1 for TS4K on that count.
     
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  14. Oct 9, 2020 #134 of 548
    osu1991

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    I switched back to the TS4K and 4K fire sticks for now. My sisters Roku was acting up and Roku users were having problems with YTTV a couple days ago, so I gave them the GoogleTV Chromecast to try out.
     
  15. Oct 9, 2020 #135 of 548
    markp99

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    I found a quick workaround that seems to avoid re-painting the Home Screen on my ShieldTV. I tried just now on GoogleTV; it works the same way. :)

    Here's what I did: Using Button Mapper app (on GoogleTV), I mapped the Back Button's Long Press action to "System > Kill Foreground App" (Note: I mapped Menu Button's Long Press action on ShieldTV)

    So, for example, while playing a Netflix movie, rather than backing all the way out via several "Back Button" presses, or pressing the "Home Button", I simply Long-Press the "Back Button". Returns me directly to the Home Page (actually, the page from which I launched the last app), , no "Exit Netflix" baloney, no 5-second re-paint delay. Nice.

    I don't think I've seen the Home Page delay more than 1 or 2 times since, lot's of clicking and exiting to test it out. Not sure the combination of events that prompted the Home Page delay using this Kill Foreground App approach.
     
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  16. Oct 9, 2020 #136 of 548
    Alex_7

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    I have one in mind that is confirmed to work.

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B089M7WSHM/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_aBmGFbS5H1B3P

    Will need another power brick with stronger W to power the hub and chromecast
    EDIT: I just ordered it right now on Amazon since it had a lightning deal for 24% off
     
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  17. Oct 9, 2020 #137 of 548
    Alex_7

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    I will need to look into trying this out
     
  18. Oct 9, 2020 #138 of 548
    AussieFigjam

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    Funny, I see it almost every time I hit the home button on all 3 of my TS4Ks, along with some other weird artifacts, like sometimes when hitting the home button, it doesn't actually load the home screen, it just jumps back one step in the app I'm using. My Chromecast arrives today, so I'll be able to do a direct comparison. If I see it there, I'll create an issue with Google. At this point I really have no idea what causes it; I hope it gets fixed at some point. I guess at least it's not as bad as some of the nasty TS4K bugs that they had when they first released.
     
  19. Oct 9, 2020 #139 of 548
    markp99

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    Ugh, as I poke around on the ShieldTV now, I am getting the Home Page delay nearly 100% after the Long Press action. Not sure what changed, was solid thru all of last night's testing.
     
  20. Oct 9, 2020 #140 of 548
    moyekj

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    Since it's somewhat random bug it may have coincidentally not been happening even using a normal Home press at the time you tried it.
     

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