Chromecast with Google TV

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  1. AussieFigjam

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    Interesting. Yet again, another provider has failed to negotiate with CBS, which always plays hardball (probably because they want people to buy their service). It doesn't have enough DVR, or CBS, and one or two other channels are missing, so not good for me, but more competition doesn't harm. Their Philo-style offering will save a few bucks over Philo if you're in the market for that.

    Hopefully, this market starts to settle down over the next few years, and both streaming and OTT will reduce to a few providers; the market is getting way too crowded because everyone sees the trend and wants a slice of the pie. In 10 years, the next generation (Gen Alpha?) will be saying "Remember when people had to buy TV from a cable provider, I wonder what ever happened to those guys"; of course, they would all be pure internet providers by then.
     
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  2. Alex_7

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    the "Customers will only be able to watch multiple TVs simultaneously while within the same home." restriction is a deal breaker for me.
     
  3. AussieFigjam

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    I run my own VPN server which gives me an IP inside my home, so I can watch U.S. TV when I'm in other countries, and so my Aussie family can watch U.S. TV (amongst other reasons), so I could easily work around this.

    I have a feeling this won't be that popular for a number of reasons, but I'm sure there is some covert reason that T-mobile have launched it.
     
  4. NashGuy

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    You can always add CBS AA (soon to be Paramount+) to get CBS live and on-demand (plus a lot of additional stuff) for $6/mo (or $10/mo ad-free). Of course, then you have to switch apps and UIs...
     
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  5. aaronwt

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    I liked YTTV when I last tried it but the price was high. And that was before the most recent price increase. So now it costs even more.
    Plus I need to keep Tv on FiOS anyway. SInce if I drop anything from my $80 triple play($91 after all taxes, fees, and one cable card) of TV, phone, and gigabit internet my price increases.
     
  6. AussieFigjam

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    Oh the joys of cable lock-in :) But you do seem to have a good deal, I'm paying $60 for my fiber Gigabit plus phone, and $65 for YTTV, so I'm looking at $125 for the same thing, but I do get free HBO Max, which still doesn't make up for the difference. Is this a special "intro" offer, or the real full price?

    It is possible to get really good deals from the cable company by threatening to cancel when the price goes up, but I wonder how many time you can get away with that.

    I don't have the option of FIOS, they don't operate in my area; I get my fiber gigabit internet from AT&T, and I'm completely free of my Cable company (which is Comcast for me), and I have no contract, cancel anytime.
     
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  7. Alex_7

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  8. AussieFigjam

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    I like that there are so many new ATV boxes hitting the market at this price-point. I think ATV has finally come of age, and with the right support from Google, it could take over the market from Roku. Memories of the old days of iPhone dominance come to mind, now Android owns more than 80% of the smartphone market worldwide. I just hope they learned their lesson from the phones, and they manage to keep all these devices on a single consolidated platform, and don't let the vendors do any customizations.
     
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  9. rczrider

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    Since we found out the Chromecast / Sabrina has a third-gen SoC, I'm not sure what value there is in purchasing a dongle based on an older SoC for the same price. Of course, as we've all seen by now, software and support can make or break a device, regardless of hardware.
     
  10. AussieFigjam

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    Right, after Google introduced their own hardware, anything else becomes a tough sell; you would assume that Google will keep their own device up-to-date with patches, security fixes, and the latest version of the OS, which means they won't be beaten on the software front, especially if they don't allow customizations. This really only leaves 2 reasons to buy anything else

    1. It's cheaper. The Mi Stick went this route; I have one, but I would not recommend buying it, even at the $38 price-point I paid, it's worth the extra money to get a Chromecast
    2. It's a much higher-end device which is capable of other things (e.g. Faster gaming). The Shield went this route, and it seems to have worked out well for them.
    Of course, as with the TS4K, there may be a B2B play here, and these guys may have a market strategy that involves selling subsidized devices to a third-party (e.g. the local cable company, or some other video provider worldwide that wants to get in to streaming).
     
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  11. BillyClyde

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    Why such a large remote with so much open real estate being wasted? Why not either a smaller form factor streaming style remote or add number and play/stop/pause buttons on the existing remote? Makes no sense.
     
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  12. fattymcbuckles

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    On these remotes instead of Netflix,YouTube,and google button shortcuts wish it would say favorite apps button and then you could assign you favorite apps. I know you can use button mapper but it would be a nice feature. All about the advertising.
     
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  14. AussieFigjam

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    On the Chromecast, if you long press the YouTube button, you can switch between YouTube, YouTube TV, and I think YouTube Music. I set mine to YouTube TV as soon as I got it. Netflix and YouTube TV are my favorite apps, so I'm set, but it does demonstrate that it's pretty easy to do this in software; it would be nice if the list was longer, and they allowed you to map the Netflix button too, but then they probably wouldn't have the Netflix deal they have :)
     
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  15. AussieFigjam

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    Another nice thing about the Chromecast (not sure if it's ATV10, or the launcher that does this) is that you can jump directly to the previous app using the back button, and it keeps playing where it left off. This combined with the favorites button makes for a better experience; you can be watching something on YTTV, and then hit the Netflix button to start something there, and then when you hit the back button or another favorites button, it jumps directly back to what you were playing on the previous app, and continues playing it. I haven't explored this feature fully yet, and I'm not sure if a continual switch back-and-forth is possible, but it's a nice touch....it kind-of feels like channel flipping on traditional TV
     
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  16. Alex_7

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    You can use the button mapper app and set one of the remote buttons as an open last app button
     
  17. AussieFigjam

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    Maybe I'll give that a try. Seems like the "BacK' button does that in some cases on the Chromecast, but I have noticed it is not consistent.
     
  18. Alex_7

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    I'll give the back button a try, but you should set it to where maybe you long press the back button and it sends you to the recent app you had open so its more consistent, the button mapper is a great app that works most of the time
     
  19. mrizzo80

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    Good idea on the back button. Looks like that is a pro feature. I went to buy it but google makes you add your password before purchases. You can make it pin-based, but you have to enter your password in order to do that.

    I don’t see any place online to update that. I hate entering my very robust passwords via TV keyboards. I don’t even like to enter an 8 character password with that method. :)

    EDIT: Is there anyway to enter the password in the google home app and fling it to the tv? You can do that on FireTV.
     
  20. Alex_7

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    I’ve never paid for button mapper, it should let you map your buttons for free
     

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