Chromecast with Google TV

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  1. krkaufman

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    I had interpreted it as meaning the same Netflix account as used during initial setup of the Chromecast, the step that triggers the generation of the promo code email. (e.g. If I use my Netflix account during initial setup of my CCGTV, I won't be able to gift the promo code to my sister as a Christmas present; the code has to be applied to my my Netflix account, the one used during initial setup.)
     
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  2. mrizzo80

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    Continue Watching hasn’t been very useful for me. It’s not keeping track of my Netflix shows, even when I initiate playback from the homescreen. It also needs the ability to delete entries. I don’t need old football games cluttering that row up.

    This is the best overall device from what I’ve tried, though. (Firestick 4K, TiVo Stream 4K, this)

    Are any Google engineers participating in any web forums? They pop in from time to time in the YTTV subreddit. I’ve checked r/Chromecast and r/AndroidTV and didn’t see anything.
     
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  3. AussieFigjam

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    Right, I think that's the way it works, although I have not tested that theory, I'm just using the same account for everything anyway. The help page mentions:

    “The signed in account isn’t eligible for this offer. Sign in with the account used to set up your Chromecast with Google TV. ” This message means that you’re not signed into the account you used to set up the Chromecast.

    Which seems to suggest there is definitely a link of some kind.

    Edit: As you say, I assume the point here is that you can't sell you credits to someone else and get your Chromecast for $12.
     
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  4. AussieFigjam

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    Not that I have seen, apart from very occasionally, and I assume these are personal accounts for people that happen to work at Google. The best way to get feedback to the Google devs is to do it from inside the app, there is usually a "provide feedback" option of some sort (although I haven't noticed it in the launcher); these comments go directly to the app developers rather than to any support people.
     
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  5. Noelmel

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    I’ve been looking into this too because I have no continue watching row at all and have tried every app and have triple checked all the settings and made sure everything is linked and check marked. All I could find was a number to call or a chat. I’d prefer just sending a feedback email.


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  6. AussieFigjam

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    I expect because there is no keyboard on the Chromecast by-default, they don't provide the feedback option. It would be nice if they at least provided a web link we could use to do it on a regular PC or Phone :(
     
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  7. Noelmel

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    I have an iPhone so the new google tv app isn’t released yet so I downloaded google home app. And was able to send feeeback from there. They had diff google device options to send feedback for. The new chromecast w google tv wasn’t listed but there was reg chromecast or chromecast ultra so sent it there and asked them to forward to the correct people. Hopefully that will help


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  8. aaronwt

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    So are you saying my Netflix account needs to have the same email address as my Google account? If so then I will need to temporarily change my email address for my Netflix account.
     
  9. krkaufman

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    No, definitely not*. The example quoted is if one tries to redeem the Netflix promo code to a Netflix account different from the Netflix account used during the CCGTV setup process, when activating the Netflix app triggered the promo email. The promo code is locked to the Netflix account used to activate the Netflix app during the initial CCGTV setup.


    * at least that's my understanding. :anguished:
     
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  10. AussieFigjam

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    Yes, I can't confirm this because all my accounts are the same and I set up Netflix on my pre-existing account when I first did the setup, but what I think happens is that you have to create or set up a netflix account during the Chromecast setup, and the account you use during setup is the one that is tied to the code that is generated and emailed to you.

    There may also be a second multi-step option where you don't set up Netflix on the Chromecast, but you do setup the Chromecast, and you get an email to redeem your credits that first asks you to create a new Netflix account or log in to one before it then generates a code tied to that account that you redeem in a second step.

    Ultimately, the outcome is the same, the generated code is tied to a specific Netflix account that you know the password for.
     
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  11. NashGuy

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    Yeah, the consensus view I'm getting from comments around the web is that Google TV's Continue Watching feature is a halfway-implemented flaky mess. Which is a shame. I've harped over and over about how a similar thing is the Apple TV's killer feature. (The "Up Next" queue at the very top of Apple's TV app is actually like a combination of Google TV's Watchlist and Continue Watching, except it actually works pretty well.)

    It seems to me that unless the Continue Watching row works consistency across all, or nearly all, the major apps on Google TV, then folks will only use the Google TV UI as a way to browse/search for *new* things to watch. But I would bet that most viewing sessions revolve around continuing to watch a series or film that you've already started, not looking for something new. Which means that most of the time, users will find the Google TV UI to be a distraction, choosing instead to just jump directly into their various apps so that they can peruse their individual Continue Watching lists for each separate service.
     
  12. AussieFigjam

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    Totally agree. I really wish they would improve this, it can't be that hard. Mine actually shows me specific videos I started to watch on Netflix, HBO Max, and YouTube TV, but never got to the end of, so I'm apparently doing better than most, but I really wish it would do the following:

    1. find the next episode of something after I finish one
    2. For broadcast or "serially released" shows which have new episodes each week, when a new episode is aired, and It knows I have been watching that series, it should show the new episode on "continue watching"
    3. Automatically remove stuff that I haven't watched or haven't finished watching in some time (e.g. a month)
    4. Allow me to manually remove things that I didn't like (e.g. I started it, but thought it was junk, but it still shows up on continue watching)
    Right now, I don't often use this row, but if it was implemented well, it could be my one-click access to about 60-80% of the TV I'm watching
     
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  13. NashGuy

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    Yep. The "Up Next" queue on Apple TV does all four of those things, except for number 3, in which case the series or film just gradually gets shifted toward the (right) end of the row. The only major flaw it has is that Netflix doesn't support it. But pretty much all other on-demand apps do.

    Google and the various app developers have a clear example that's been laid out and implemented by Apple for how this should work. Android has copied plenty of ideas from iOS (and vice versa) over the years. Google TV should do the same with tvOS.
     
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  14. Alex_7

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    Do your Recommendations based on your "Liked" and "watched" Movies/Shows work?
     
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  15. AussieFigjam

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    I'm really not sure. I do see "because you liked <blah>" in one of my rows from time-to-time, but beyond that, I really can't tell exactly how it plays into the recommendations if at-all.
     
  16. AussieFigjam

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    Well this is a good sign. If Apple did a good job already, you can bet Google will try to copy it, if only because Apple did it, and they don't want it too seem like they are technically inferior. Now we just need to prod them a bit with a request like "Apple does this, why don't you?" or "I just moved over from Apple TV, that had this feature, but you don't, maybe I should move back again". Knowing Google, two things will bump the priority:

    1) Apple has something that they don't
    2) Users moving from one platform to the other really miss it and might move back again
     
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  17. mrizzo80

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    Bluetooth headphones actually work the way I expect them to, meaning, the volume rocker on the remote changes the volume of the headphones. I’m using AirPods.

    On FireTV and TS4k, AirPods are pinned at a loud volume that you can’t change, rendering them basically useless.
     
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  18. Alex_7

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    Yeah that’s what I meant
     
  19. AussieFigjam

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    OK, I can't find any now. I tried liking a few things, but it seems to have no effect. I thought I had seen "Because you liked" at some point, but now I only see "Because you watched", and I'm starting to doubt my memory, maybe I only ever saw "because you watched" and thought it was "because you liked". Sounds like another bug.
     
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  20. Alex_7

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    Maybe it takes time to generate?
     

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