Chromecast with Google TV

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream 4K' started by privateinfo, Oct 1, 2020.

  1. mschnebly

    mschnebly Well-Known Member

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    Some day the legacy fan base will have to come to terms that Tivo doesn't want to be in the retail DVR business.
     
  2. foghorn2

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  3. siratfus

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    I went back and installed the base and launcher apks from the HowtoGeek article, then I installed the UPDATE that you mentioned from apkpure. For the TS4k, it doesn't seem to have any effect, the blank screen going HOME is still there. Unlike the actual Chromecast, on the TS4k the blank screen happens almost all the time. It is absolutely unusable on the TS4K. Also, you cannot get to your account's settings. Not the device settings, but the setting of the username where you can manage and see your linked services. On the TS4k, when you click on that setting, it bounces you back HOME.

    So if anybody's wondering, this is not good for TS4K. I will experiment with my Shield Pro today.
     
  4. BillyClyde

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    I totally agree, but you should also agree it would be minimal effort to do the integration since they’re the developer of each device and they already have an Android app, if nothing more than for good will and a nod to their legacy clientele still using DVRs. Not to mention all their cable partner end customers who could use a TS4K in a lightly used room or on the road to access their content.
     
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  5. AussieFigjam

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    Right. I'm taking a bit of a flyer here, but I'm confident enough that I can use 2 Netflix offers that I grabbed another Chromecast with the offer.

    As I remember with Netflix offers, you can only use 1 at-a-time, but since the offer extends to march 2022, it leaves plenty of time to start the first offer, and then get the seccond Chromecast, and wait to start the seccond offer until the first one expires, therefore applying them one-at-a-time, and only having one offer active at any point in time. I wouldn't want to risk 3 though, 18 months is a little too close to March 2022 for my liking, especially with the shiping backlog right now.

    Edit:Actually, if you didn't already activate the first offer, you're already too late for 3 anyway.
     
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  6. mschnebly

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    I would agree if Tivo really wanted those DVRs around longer. I get the feeling that they don't. I think they would rather be using the Cable Cos. cloud for their DVRs.
     
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  7. AussieFigjam

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    Right; after reading some articles, I have come the the conclusion that Tivo have pivoted to a B2B company, their main focus is selling devices to other companies, mostly internet and cable companies, and not directly to any customer. This also holds for the TS4K it would seem. From here on in, if you purchase any hardware directly from Tivo, you are essentially participating in a proof-of-concept that Tivo can use as leverage to sell the device to some cable/internet company in a bulk deal.

    Old customers that purchased their hardware in the past, don't fit with their business plan; the hard truth is that they shouldn't really care about you, if you get anything from them, you are depending on the generosity of the old-guard in the company, or, whatever you want also benefits their B2B plans.
     
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  8. Alex_7

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    I can confirm that this hub works with the CCGT device:

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...08060c07defb78d0f5fe60d2d742a5&language=en_US

    I didn't even need to use a separate higher powered power adapter, I powered the hub using the power adapter and cord that came with the chromecast! The ethernet works, although my speeds are slower compared to wifi, about half of my speed is cut down, was getting over 200mb/s using wifi, now I'm only getting about 130mb/s with a wired connection. Maybe its due to the type of ethernet cable I'm using. I don't mind as long as I'm getting a more stable connection.

    The external storage also works. I'm using a 65GB usb flash drive and the hub recognized it and I formatted it as external storage. I transferred all my apps to the flash drive, feels good to never have to worry about running out of storage space.

    Overall I am happy with this hub, and I recommend it to anyone wanting to use ethernet connection and expand storage with their CCGT.
     
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  9. krkaufman

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    Why for?
     
  10. AussieFigjam

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    My bad, looks like you can use up to 3. I'm assuming the offers must run one at-a-time on a single Netflix account, and one does not become active until the previous one finishes. Since the use-by date is March 2022, the last offer must become active before that date or it expires. Assuming sequential application, if you apply the first offer today, it runs until April 2021, then the second will run from April 2021 until October 2021, and the third runs from October 2021 to April 2022. somehow my calculations had assumed the offer must be completed by March 2022, but in fact it only needs to have been activated by that date, which allows another 6 months.

    So, right, you can use up to 3. Which completely explains the Google stated limit of 3 per household.
     
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  12. aaronwt

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    I guess it makes more sense for me to pick up my second Chromecast with this offer. Since it will save me more money with the Netflix deal than getting the Chromecast at $10 or so off during the Holidays.

    I only wish I had ordered the first one this way. Since you can apply the $77.94 value of the Netflix offer toward the UHD plan. And my several year credit at Netflix, I had from 50% off gift cards, is running out in December.
     
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  13. AussieFigjam

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    Right, I purchased the first one as a regular device at full price (less my Google One discount) because I noticed even on day 1 there was a backlog on the Netflix offers, and I wanted at least one new Chromecast to make sure I liked it. I then grabbed 2 more with the Netflix offer, and I even applied a $10 off coupon they sent me after I purchased the first one, so I got one for $2. With the backlog in shipping, I'm still not sure I would want to go for 3 with the offer, but I have all the Chromecasts I need now.

    On the upside, if you had gotten the netflix version of the Chromecast at the outset, you probably wouldn't have it yet. My next one is due early November according to the shipping estimate, but I can live with the 2 I have for now.

    Also, the risk if you wait for the Black Friday deal is that you may be stuck in backlog hell, even for the regular non-offer device. I have a feeling the new Chromecast will be extremely popular, and they will have a backlog of orders for a while to come.
     
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  14. rczrider

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    I'm not disagreeing - because I certainly can't say for sure - but why do you think that's the way it works? When I redeemed the offer, it just became Netflix credit. Same as if you'd used a GC. As I said earlier, though, I suppose the codes could be (probably are) specific to this offer, thereby allowing Netflix to limit their use.

    I'm going to wait for others to confirm more than one credit can be applied before I purchase a second unit. If it works like a GC, I'll buy a third unit, too. Then maybe start up a new Netflix account with more units :p

    At $20 net cost (assuming you're already using Netflix, which I'm guessing the average purchaser of this Chromecast is), there is literally no better value streaming device available right now. I'll keep my TS4K as my "travel" unit because it was "free" (Amazon credited my account after the second defective return and I called it quits) and in case TiVo gets its act together and makes the software something less than a dumpster fire...but I'd gladly replace my Mi Box 3 and all Fire Stick 4K units with more Chromecasts.
     
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  15. markp99

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    Anyone seeing the "Select" button fail to register?

    I have seen it more than a half dozen times over the past couple weeks. The other buttons appear to all function normally. I need to LONG PRESS the select button to get it to wake up (or a reboot). Does not seem to be a hardware issue, as it will wake-up by a long-press.

    Might be worth a call for a warranty replacement. (bought from Best Buy).
     
  16. AussieFigjam

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    I'm not sure either, but past Netflix offers seem to work this way. Like you said, they apply it as credit to the account, but usually, they don't allow multiple credits to run simultaneously, so they "remember" that you applied the credit, but it doesn't become "active" until the previous one is used up. I'm not sure, but I'm guessing the credit expires if it didn't become active before March 2022; maybe not, but I don't want to take that risk, and 2 with this offer is enough for me anyway.

    @aaronwt, you mentioned you had a bunch of gift cards on your account (same kind of thing). Did they have an expiration date? Did it just give you credit immediately, or only allow one at-a-time?
     
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  17. AussieFigjam

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    Interestingly I saw this once or twice with the TS4K, it would only happen after the device had gone in to ambient mode and was showing the rotating background pictures on the screen, hitting the select would not always wake it up, and a long-press was required. I have not seen it on the Chromecast; although I have started to experience other glitches, like a "fuzzy" screen (like the old-fashioned TV that was not tuned to any channel) when I first hit the power button after overnight downtime; that one required a hard power reset. I think the software still has a few bugs, but at least there's half a chance that Google will fix them in a reasonable time-frame.
     
  18. aaronwt

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    I did them all at once and the credit showed up on my Netflix balance immediately. I just waited a couple of minutes between each redemption. That is what the seller on ebay said to do and I had no issues. But this was almost two years ago. I haven't seen any 50% off Netflix deals like that in a long time. I only wish I had purchased at least a hundred dollars more of those Netflix Gift cards at 50% off. It made the UHD plan, at half a price, a great deal for $8.

    I did order a Google Chromecast with Google TV with the Netflix deal last night. It showed an estimated delivery of November 11/12. So does the $77.94 worth of Netflix show up with the actual device? or is a code emailed to me?
     
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  19. AussieFigjam

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    The code is emailed to you *after* you set up the device, and on top of that, the account name you apply the offer to must match the account name you use when you set up the device with the Netflix account. Myguess is that they generate the code (at Google) after you set up the device and create/use the Netflix account, and the code you get is specific to that account.

    There is a good explanation here:

    Redeem your Netflix bundle credit - Chromecast Help

    It does explicitly say here there is a limit of 3, which suggests you may just be able to apply them all at once as credits, but in order to do that, you must first set up the device and log in to a netflix account on it.
     
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  20. rczrider

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    That wasn't the case for me. The account I registered my Chromecast with and my Netflix account use different email addresses. They're not linked in any way, either (for example, no forwarding and one isn't the recovery for the other or anything). Both are Gmail, though.
     

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