Chromecast with Google TV

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  1. AussieFigjam

    AussieFigjam Active Member

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    Better sell it quick before the masses realize it's going the way of the dodo :)

    My second Chromecast just arrived today, and the third is on-oder. With the $10 discount and two Netflix offers I paid a total of $60 plus a year of Netflix (which I was already subscribed to anyway) for 3 devices, and suddenly, all my main TVs are switched over to Chromecast for a $60 total investment.

    I'm just going to keep my TS4Ks and use them as travel devices, and in the spare room and gym room. You never know, maybe they'll eventually update to ATV 10 and work well with the new launcher.
     
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  2. Alex_7

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    Yeah I might just keep it in my office room and slowly convert my firestick setups to chromecast
     
  3. NashGuy

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    I have to say, I'm really surprised at the degree of cooperation that Netflix is extending to Google TV, given that they've never opted in to working with the similar TV app on Apple TV. Given how protective Netflix is of their own app/UI/data gathering/algorithms, it's really something that Google TV has gotten them on board like that. Looks like Google has cracked the toughest nut, now it's just to get all the others to do the same. (Won't surprise me, though, if Amazon never does. We'll see.)
     
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  4. NashGuy

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    I don't think Google allows manufacturers to use something different than the standard Android TV (or now, Google TV) home screen on retail devices. For devices given by pay TV operators to their customers (like AT&T TV), then yes, they can switch out the home screen because they are licensing what's known as Android TV Operator Tier. But on retail devices, I think the most that can be done is light customization like what TiVo did with the Stream 4K or what Nvidia has done on their Shield TV.
     
  5. AussieFigjam

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    Me too. I think it was a bit of give-and-take. Netflix probably agreed to it on the basis that they would get a permanent "Netflix" button on the remote. They are probably betting on the fact that their platform is good enough that people will just hit the netflix button, rather than trying to find stuff through the launcher. There is also a lot to be said for the marketing presence that comes with Google releasing a device that contains a big Netflix button.
     
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  6. Noelmel

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    Maybe because I have 4 or 5 profiles on all my services although I’m the default on all except Hulu. Hmm


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  7. Noelmel

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    I LOVE Apple TV “Up Next” to me it’s exactly what I want the Tivo Stream and the new Chromecast to do. If Apple ever makes a deal and adds Netflix it would be perfect to me. I also figured Google got them to integrate by adding the Netflix button to the remote and doing the Netflix bundle deal. Not sure how Tivo managed lol


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  8. BillyClyde

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    Deeper Dive—TiVo Stream 4K burrows deeper into legacy pay TV
     
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  9. AussieFigjam

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    Also, Apple is one of the hardest companies to work with; I know, I have had to do it. They are ultra secretive and completely paranoid about anything and everything, to the point that it completely stifles any progress and makes development twice as hard as it needs to be...and I work for a company that is number 1 in its field, and almost as big as Apple, and would never produce any competing product; I can't imagine how anyone who is smaller and might have competitive products (like Netflix) would be treated. Give me Google any day of the week.
     
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  10. AussieFigjam

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    Actually, this article explains a lot. Their key market strategy is B2B (Business to Business) rather than B2C. They are planning to get the cable (now internet) providers to subsidise the device cost by locking customers into an internet and TV plan that includes the TS4K. Anyone who actually paid for the device as an end customer is just a guinea-pig for a proof-of-concept. This might actually work out for Tivo if they lock in enough cable/internet providers. I hope so, because it means the devices I own might actually get updates
     
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  11. NashGuy

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    Yes, but this appears to be a situation where the MSOs will just give the TS4K to their standalone broadband customers as a convenient way to access OTT apps, not for use with their own cable TV/IPTV service. (TiVos boxes running Android TV Operator Tier do exist for those use-cases and they run the TiVo Hydra UI and lack the standard Android TV homescreen.)
     
  12. NashGuy

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    Oh, I would agree that Google's culture has always been more open and about inviting in partners to create an ecosystem as opposed to Apple's closed-garden approach. Still though, has Netflix allowed their content to be aggregated and commingled with outside content on any platform? It doesn't really happen on Fire TV's jumbled homescreen, does it? (There may be some kind of "Netflix suggests" row but that's as far as it goes, right?) I know Netflix is available on Comcast X1 but does the X1 UI feature Netflix titles mixed in with stuff from cable channels?
     
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  13. Alex_7

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    I just discovered something tonight.

    When casting to the new chromecast, and pressing home, the content you are watching pops up on the continue watching row. Tried it with FuboTV, ESPN, doesn’t work with Netflix though.

    also shows up on the top picks for you row as the first thumbnail displaying as “Paused” so you can select it where you left off.

    Edit: works with Amazon Prime as well! Very interesting.
     
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  14. siratfus

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    I just give old tech away to my relatives who are not tech savvy and thankful every time I give them something. I've handed down two generations of fire sticks to the same cousin. He's getting upgrades! LOL! I still had another fire stick laying around that I was able to use to trade in for the Cube during prime day.
    Is the apk you mentioned specifically for the Shield TV? I tried this on the TS4k and it wouldn't install. I actually got one of the variants to install but the screen would be completely blank. Is the only thing working for the TS4k is this version back on page 4 of this thread by HOWTOGEEK? I went back to this guide, and I got Google TV to work again on TS4k.
     
  15. markp99

    markp99 TakoKichi TCF Club

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    Not just for ShieldTV. Installed for me without complaint, though I cannot find a version number anywhere to confirm it actually did anything.

    Functionality "feels" different, but that's not a very scientific conclusion. I may go back and revisit w a fresh install of the stock LauncherX to more carefully compare.
     
  16. rczrider

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    Are you applying the Netflix credits to different accounts? I was under the impression - though I haven't read up to verify - that you could only use the $77.94 Netflix credit once per account. Meaning you couldn't order, say, 4 CCGTVs and apply the Netflix credit 4 times to the same Netflix account. I assumed the codes were of a specific type, so they'd know it came from the Google promo.

    Because heck, if I can apply more than one credit, sign me up. I already use Netflix and I'll replace my other streaming devices - as well as those for my parents and in-laws - with the CCGTV and call it day.
     
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  17. krkaufman

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    FWIW, their earlier related post:
    I was planning on just finding someone who'd pay X on the $ for my surplus Netflix promo code(s).

    edit: Though the current terms limit the promo to 3 per Google account, I don't see a similar limit associated with Netflix (though I'll be pleased if it's >1 and surprised if >3.)

    p.s. I'll bite. 2nd unit enroute, and sticking w/ Snow given the much-delayed shipping times for the Sunrise & Sky models.

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  18. siratfus

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    Hmm, what a minute, I noticed I didn't see any launcherX apk in my system apps, that's because I deleted it once I decided the blank screen made it useless. The apk you mentioned, is that just an update, and you still need the original launcher x apk? Maybe that's my problem? I'm confusing launcher with Google TV skin?
     
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  19. krkaufman

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    Hear, hear! (something TiVo and Roku should have implemented years ago)
     
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  20. markp99

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    My impression, this installs on top of the base Launcher X. This apk appeared same day the Sabrina update dropped.

    Again, when I get back home I'll try a fresh and more carefully compare the basic functions. I wish the version number was visible.
     

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