Channels DVR Server Now Available For Tivo Stream 4K

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  1. siratfus

    siratfus Active Member

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    When you removed the cablecard in your tivo to put into the HDhomerun, is it plug and play? Or, do you have to talk to your cable company to relay info so they can configure on their end?
     
  2. Pokemon_Dad

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

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    Anytime you move a CableCARD, even between two TiVo boxes, you have to re-pair it with the new device. Unless you do that, it may at first appear to be working, but you will eventually discover channels are missing unless you're on the most basic tier.

    Pairing is faster and far far less painful than it used to be. With Xfinity I can do that over the web, and most cable companies now offer CableCARD hotlines. Pairing the HD HomeRun via that website was painless.
     
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  3. Charles R

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    If a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound? :) As far as I'm concerned it's not delivered until it's available to be used. With zero (current) plans for ATSC 3.0 in my market it's a non-event. Not to mention it only has two ATSC 3.0 tuners and if ATSC 3.0 ever comes around (and they don't completely step on the signal quality which is what I expect) I'd have to wait until the four tuner version shipped.

    Bottom line I'm pretty sure I'll be off air long before it will ever become viable. Yesterday I happened to look at my To Do list and before I dreamed up a few more I had one showed scheduled to record for the next two weeks.
     
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  4. Pokemon_Dad

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

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    I'm in one of the "first markets" listed on the ATSC 3.0 deployments page, though apparently not the very first. The Connect 4K will have two ATSC 3.0 tuners and two legacy tuners. The Kickstarter FAQ page says the following, and there is plenty of discussion at various points in the comments thread:

    Here in Phoenix the major networks are sharing a single ATSC 3.0 physical channel. We expect to see a similar approach in other markets where broadcasters share one or two physical channels broadcasting ATSC 3.0 content.

    ATSC 3.0 demods are expensive - ATSC 3.0 new, and it requires supporting four concurrent demodulations per channel making the hardware a lot more expensive.

    Two tuners supporting ATSC 3.0 provides a good cost balance and is unlikely to be a limitation for many years.
     
  5. siratfus

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    Ahh, Xfinity on the ball. For Spectrum, this is the best I can find, will still need to call in.
     
  6. Pokemon_Dad

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    My sympathies. If they don't know what an HD HomeRun is and try to select some other product they see listed on their screen, don't worry about that it will still pair.
     
  7. jakep_82

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    In the Kickstarter description they state that they plan to support tuning of 4 simultaneous ATSC 3.0 subchannels. Based on what they're seeing in Phoenix, this should allow tuning of 4 separate major networks at the same time. Maybe this changes down the line, but by then 3.0 tuners will likely be less expensive and more broadly available.

    "We plan to enable multi-channel support so you can watch up to 4 ATSC 3.0 sub-channels across the 2 ATSC 3.0 tuners, all in high definition!"

    I happen to be in a market that already has a live 3.0 channel, so I'm just waiting on hardware. Based on what I've seen so far, I feel confident that I'll be watching ATSC 3.0 content by August.
     
  8. mdavej

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    Exactly.
    Having paired cards with Spectrum dozens of times over the years with HomeRun, Ceton, Hauppauge, WinTV, etc., ALWAYS just tell them you have a Tivo, and confirm that you give them both the DATA and HOST IDs. If they don't know what those are, hang up and try again. Once you get someone who knows what a cable card is, don't hang up until it's working.
     
  9. cybergrimes

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    Emby does a great job with DVR imo and the UI is still very straightforward with personal media being the center. None of all the fluff Plex keeps adding/taking away.
    I would probably switch to Channels for my DVR product (streams start fast, UI is beautiful) but Emby makes it easier for letting my father-in-law watch as a remote user for both live OTA TV and DVR recordings. Channels doesn't do Roku because of MPEG2 limitations but Emby will just transcode to make it happy. Not sure why Channels doesn't just go there, they already transcode for web, etc. Also Channels only works as a single user setup. It's a shame it's so great in some ways but so limited in others.
     
  10. Pokemon_Dad

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

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    The Channels devs refuse to have transcoding happening over the local network, as a matter of principle. So no Roku.
     
  11. philco782

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    Annoying when there are arbitrary limitations that could technically be accomplished. There’s a guy on YouTube who arranged a system that can tweet from a 60 year old teletype. Why? Because it can be done!


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  12. Pokemon_Dad

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    This is not an arbitrary choice. It performs better that way, with less demand on your server and LAN. I've found it runs faster than Plex here. The client platform must be up to the task, but in the client apps' Settings you're offered a choice of hardware or software transcoding.
     
  13. vurbano

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    i loaded it the plus DVR on my PC. It doesnt pick up all of my sling channels. Its doesnt use my Airtv2 (it wants a homerun) and it doesnt seem to have a way to use IPTV services and record. Seems like its best to load the server on a PC and use the App of 4K or firesticks to schedule and watch recordings. No cigar from me. I cant believe some say this is the best.
     
  14. BillyClyde

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    It was designed from the ground up to work with hdhomerun tuners, not airtv. I don’t even think AirTV was even a thing when Channels came out. That would be like being mad at a cheap Homeworx DVR because it doesn’t have the TiVo interface or something. It was never designed that way in the first place!

    Not getting all the channels for Sling isn’t Channel’s fault either. Sling is the one who has to offer more TVE channels because that’s what Channels uses if you aren’t using a prime HDHomerun cable tuner. The TVE channels you can get are dependent on the provider you’re signed up for, NOT Channels DVR, so blame your provider, in this case Sling, not Channels. If you had Xfinity or something you’d get a lot more.
     
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  15. Scooter Scott

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    Well said
     
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  16. spiderpumpkin

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    They don't support IPTV services officially. I've seen some discussion of people doing such things but not something I've ever tried.

    Channels DVR also supports Locast if it's in your market. Once it authenticates your location the DVR never has to check location for Locast again.
     
  17. vurbano

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    I say the app has work to do if it wants to say it supports something but really only does it half way. That reminds me of Tivos integration of SLing. Maybe there could be 2 lists of providers. The ones if really works with and the ones only sort of. If I still had a cable provider like "Xfinity or something" I would be using a Tivo edge not a trying to run a server on a little 50 dollar dongle.
     
  18. Pokemon_Dad

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    It's a technical issue, not a business decision. Channels can only access TVE channels that offer web streaming.
     
  19. BillyClyde

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    When I said “Xfinity or something”, I was referring to the TVE (TV Everywhere) channels, NOT using a cablecard with a cable company. It is ONLY Slings fault why there aren’t more channels available on TVE from them and has no bearing whatsoever on the fault of Channels DVR or its developers. As I said, Xfinity and just about every other MSO provider that supports TVE has more channels authorized than Sling. Choose a better provider. That’s your answer, not trying to fix Channels DVR. Channels DVR will support every non-DRM channel if you choose to use it the same as a TiVo as well, with a cablecard. At least Channels offers BOTH solutions. Can’t say the same for TiVo!

    I’m thinking maybe you need to do more research on exactly what Channels DVR is.
     

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