Channels DVR Server Now Available For Tivo Stream 4K

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream 4K' started by spiderpumpkin, May 19, 2020.

  1. spiderpumpkin

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  2. schatham

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    Talk about a slap in the face. No Tivo DVR stream but your competitor can do it on your device.
     
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  3. babsonnexus

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    So basically, instead of setting up a stand-alone server, you are using the Stream 4K as one (with external storage). It's an interesting option if you don't want to set up an always-on PC or Raspberry Pi or the like. Since I already have one set up, not needed.

    But let's not pretend like this creates the promise of recordings and streaming bookmarks in one place; you'll still have to launch the Channels app separate to get to your recordings and manage your OTT bookmarks elsewhere. And right now, trying to get Channels to embrace TiVo's promise is not popular with the community:

    Feature Request: Add Realgood or something like it
     
  4. Scooter Scott

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    IN YOUR FACE TIVO!

    I do laugh at this. The biggest complaint with the TS4K is that it doesn't interact with their own DVRs. Channels has worked since day 1...and now they have even setup their own DVR engine on the device.
     
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  6. spiderpumpkin

    spiderpumpkin Say no to Hydra!

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    I think there are a couple different reasons people are buying the Tivo Stream 4K. Some want it just as an Android TV box, and others want it to have one app that brings all their streaming services together with Stream app.

    I mainly bought it because it's an Android box that can run a couple of my favorite apps. I really don't have a need for an app like TiVo Stream or Realgood that searches all the streaming apps for me. The first thing I did was remove the new TiVo Stream app and never even launched it once.
     
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  7. tivolocity

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    They have good reason to be concerned. I started with using Plex as a DVR, but switched to Channels. One of the reasons was because the Plex UI is really cluttered and recorded shows ended up way too deep in the navigation.
     
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  8. md wass

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    I did the same, Channels App is one of the best apps out there for a variety of reasons, but nothing even comes close for viewing/recording live tv, among several other things it does better than others as well..
     
  9. BillyClyde

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    To be fair, they didn’t have to do any extra work on it to make it work. They already had an Android ARM processor capable Channels DVR Server app for the nVidia Shield in the Google Play store. All you had to do was download the app and configure it, the same as you would do on the Shield.
     
  10. tivolocity

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    It's sad we're even having this conversation. Based on the comments in this forum, Stream 4k is clearly not the revolutionary device to return TiVo to its glory days. It's more like the last gasp of a company that was squeezed out by the hardware of cable/sat providers and then failed to innovate fast enough to be relevant in related markets.
     
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  11. Channels App

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    This is not quite fair. The SHIELD Pro is a 64-bit ARM device. The TiVo Stream is ARMv7 32-bit device. There was considerable engineering effort involved to make it work.
     
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    What happened to the HomeRun Prime 6 tuners? I'm very confused reading up on it. It seems like it was a product from 2017, but then it's nowhere to be found. I see old youtube videos talking about the 6 tuner, but yet on their own webpage, it says "Under Development." SMH. I have tivo gear, so I haven't been following. Does anybody have the 411?
     
  13. mdavej

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    Has never been and never will be a product. Prototypes have made appearances at CES a few years, but it never gets released. Silicon Dust is about as good as Tivo at finishing projects. They talk a big talk, then nothing. They always have an excuse (a supplier discontinued a component, etc., etc.) Get yourself two 3 tuner Primes or an old 6 tuner Ceton and forget about the 6 tuner Prime vaporware. Besides, they've already moved on to the next product they'll never deliver:
    HDHomeRun ATSC 3.0
     
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  14. BillyClyde

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    I stand corrected! Thanks so much for clearing that up and I apologize for assuming such.

    So is the performance similar to the Shield Pro with all this new engineering that had to be done?

    Keep up the great work. I love you guys!
     
  15. mdavej

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    Not even in the same ballpark. But keep in mind the Stream is a quarter of the price.
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    The Nvidia Shield TV (2019) is 32-bit and Nvidia Shield TV Pro (2019) is 64-bit.
     
  17. BillyClyde

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    I was more asking about the re-engineered app itself and its performance compared to the same app running on the Shield, than the boxes themselves where the differences are fairly obvious and a given.
     
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  18. Pokemon_Dad

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    Working sign-off samples of the ATSC 3.0 product, the Connect Quatro 4K, have already been delivered even before the crowdfunding campaign has ended. The Prime 6 is a very different project, not a quick Kickstarter but a long slog that's as much about paperwork as it is about development, and I wouldn't infer anything about SiliconDust based on that situation.

    The Prime 6 requires approval by the CableCARD Consortium, and during that excruciatingly slow process chipsets have twice been discontinued by the manufacturers, each time forcing SiliconDust to begin the development and approval process all over again. Even if approved, if any of the built-in content protection fails then SiliconDust will be liable for very expensive penalties that would likely bankrupt them. So as I said, it's a long slow slog, and a very careful one at that. And for all those troubles, one must wonder if the CableCARD market will be around long enough to make all that effort and expense worthwhile.

    Rather than wait for a Prime 6, I easily went on eBay to buy two mint-condition 3-tuner Prime units in their original boxes. I am running one with the card that used to be in my buggy Bolt. I haven't activated the other one yet, as I also have a 4-tuner Quatro receiving OTA signals, and a Quatro 4K on the way. We have only one TiVo server left here, a good ol' Roamio Pro, but when that one dies I'll use its card in my other Prime, and then we'll have fully transitioned to Channels DVR.
     
  19. jakep_82

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    Wow, this is very interesting. This would allow me to ditch the mini PC I have handling my Channels DVR. If Tivo ever fixes the HDR and CEC issues, this could become the ultimate streaming stick for me. As it is right now the HDR problem makes it unusable.
     
  20. Pokemon_Dad

    Pokemon_Dad Ruler of Unown UI

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    Posted by Channels dev @tmm1 on the Channels Community:
     
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