Channel repack has begun, and it's not good!

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by TeamPace, Jul 2, 2018.

  1. Charles R

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    A "couple" mistakes is much like your "official" has little or no meaning... virtually everyone of the markets were affected in one way (early) or another (late). Roughly 100% of the numerous markets were updated incorrectly which more or less defines willy-nilly.
     
  2. NorthAlabama

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    ok, maybe i'm misunderstanding you - please explain how, exactly, were roughly 100% updated incorrectly? how is tivo not waiting for confirmation from the station itself not an official response?
     
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  3. Charles R

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    It's been explained in this thread over the past several weeks... no reason to repeat it all.
     
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  4. TeamPace

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    Well, for the Dayton OH market TiVo is kind of playing "wack-a-mole". They switched the guide data a day prior to the stations actually changing frequencies, which created a problem for less than 24nrs (not so bad).

    But one of those stations (WDTN channel 2) wasn't changing frequencies for another couple of weeks. So TiVo switched that guide data back to the old frequency. Then on the day that channel 2 finally started broadcasting on their new frequency TiVo was pretty quick to make a correction.

    The only problem is there are a total of 5 networks broadcasting on that channel NBC, CW, Court Mystery, ION, & Bounce. There are different channel number ids involved. 2.1, 2.2, 26.1, 26.2, and 43.1. They all share one channel. TiVo has the guide data properly matched for 2.1 and 2.2 but not for 26.1, 26.2, and 43.1.

    Having a dozen folks I'm helping with this transition I'll certainly be happy when this is all cleared up. To add insult to injury one of our major stations (channel 7 WHIO is having tower problems and has effectively been off the air for about 5 days now!
     
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  5. NorthAlabama

    NorthAlabama tabasco rules

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    that's exactly what i suspected, no misunderstanding at all - have a nice day! ;) :rolleyes:
     
  6. Charles R

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    That's a little better than willy-nilly but not much. Here I lost several series recordings as I never dreamed they would update the channels days before they were scheduled. In the past they were always (relatively) on time or late... obviously it has become more willy-nilly.
     
  7. TeamPace

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    TiVo has the Dayton Ohio market finally straightened out. It took over 3 weeks. I have found 1 channel (Fox 45-1) has lost some signal strength so I'll probably call the station and see what's up with that. Also unrelated to the repack our CBS affiliate channel 7.1 has been off the air going on 3 weeks due to an antenna issue. Supposed to be close to having it fixed. They have been temporarily broadcasting on a PBS station sub channel for a few days or so now. That has not helped the situation at all! It's been a rough few weeks for OTA in our market!
     
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    TeamPace

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    A bit of a side note, since the repack channel 45 FOX Dayton OH market is broadcasting at reduced power. They are installing new equipment which will take a number of weeks to complete. According to the station engineer besides going back to full power the new equipment will be ATSC 3.0!
     
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    MikeBear

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    You mean ATSC 3.0 capable. NOBODY has an ATSC 3.0 tuner except station engineers. Consumers ATSC 3.0 tuners for the US don't exist as of yet.
     
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    TeamPace

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    Yeah, I was just repeating what the station engineer told me, that the equipment they are installing is ATSC 3.0 capable. I was just happy to see things moving forward in that regard. I still expect it's a good ways off before we start seeing 3.0 broadcasts and consumer products with ATSC 3.0 tuners. I'm still recommending that people buy ATSC 1.0 equipment such as TiVo's and FireTV Recast DVR's if they're cutting the cord. I know they will have at an absolute minimum of 5 years before any ATSC 1.0 signals go away, since the stations are required to continue broadcasting 1.0 for 5 years after starting 3.0. PQ for 1.0 may not be so great during part of that time due to channel sharing, but at least it will still be available. Hopefully some of the current products like TiVo, Recast etc. will have a way to add a 3.0 tuner. But even if they don't, 5 years is plenty of time to warrant the cost of equipment.
     
  11. Dec 1, 2019 #371 of 372
    Lurker1

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    You still recommend people buy TiVos? Are these people your friends?
     
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    TeamPace

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    Yeah, good point. Actually I'm recommending Fire TV w/Recast DVR for the most part now. While Recast isn't as feature rich as TiVo it's just a simpler system to use and set up at a lower cost (particularly for whole house system). I haven't completely given up on TiVo as I still think it's the better DVR, but it's expensive, harder to set up for a whole house system, and not much good as a streamer. Sad to see TiVo fading off into the distance but they just haven't been able to keep it relevant for the direction TV viewing is moving.
     

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