Channel repack has begun, and it's not good!

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  1. Aug 3, 2019 #261 of 382
    MikeBear

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    Because the Recast must use the stations broadcast PSIP data to build its guide. Tivo does NOT, as they use their own typically much more detailed and going out at least 14 days guide.

    Most stations don't even broadcast more than about a 24 hour's worth of PSIP guide data and that's not very useful, even though PSIP is capable of almost two weeks data.
     
  2. Aug 3, 2019 #262 of 382
    Adam C.

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    So for people that have a Recast, are you only getting 1 day of guide data? I find that hard to believe.
     
  3. Aug 3, 2019 #263 of 382
    MikeBear

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    It depends on what the station chooses to send. They can crank it out to 14 days IF they so choose. Most of them do NOT, unless you contact the station engineer and ask him to do so. My local stations only provide a 24hr PSIP guide. I use a Tivo, so it doesn't affect me, but directly on my tv set, it only shows 24hours out max.
     
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    JoeKustra

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    TexasDVR

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    The TiVo process of having to manually notify TiVo to update program data for the correct display channels assigned to new RF's is just "nuts". Since the TiVo software does not handle that automatically, they should at least stay on top of major markets, like Dallas, and do this themselves as a part of their service.

    "Channel Management" system is basically useless in this "repacking" process.
     
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  6. Aug 4, 2019 #266 of 382
    just4tivo

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    TiVo doesn't have the uplink centers that sat and cable tv do so they can't monitor any market farther than an antenna will allow to catch frequency changes.

    I've been through multiple frequency changes in my market and 1/2 the time it tales longer than the local broadcaster intended.

    I can see where TiVo would wait till the hammer drops and customers make lineup/guide reports before they make the changes.

    TiVo does seem to address these frequency changes a lot quicker than when they add/remove local channels that don't exist in the local market.

    TiVo does enough stuff wrong but I think this policy is the best compromise.
     
  7. Aug 4, 2019 #267 of 382
    TonyD79

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    They could add the new frequency without removing the old and the customer could pick which one is in the channel list as a better compromise.

    Or just fix their scanning software to get the PSIP data like every tv in the country does.
     
  8. Aug 4, 2019 #268 of 382
    just4tivo

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    There's no end to the things that TiVo could do. Some of us are thankful when they do things that aren't totally wrong.
     
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    morac

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    So Tivo fixed the channels whose frequencies changed. They also responded to my case with an email of the list of the channels they fixed which was unexpected, but welcome. Here’s what they sent which I think includes channels I never reported.

    Neither a restart nor a rescan was needed. Things just started working.
     
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  10. Aug 5, 2019 #270 of 382
    TexasDVR

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    I will resubmit the channel request changes again for Dallas at the end of the week. As of today these are the basic changes needed, some are in place now, but many are not.
     

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    Adam C.

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    As of this morning all 7 of the NYC channel updates that I submitted have been completed. There are still a bunch of low power channels that are wrong, but I never watch those anyway. I guess one day someone will figure those out.
     
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  12. Aug 7, 2019 #272 of 382
    TexasDVR

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    TiVo has completed about half of the Dallas Repack 4 corrections.

    Kind of funny, looks like they missed the display channels from about 40 to 51. I think those below 40 are correct now, and those above 51 appear correct.
     
  13. HarleyRandom

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    I asked what to do when it is necessary to rescan and didn't get an answer. Only my Series 3 needs that because I haven't had the courage to cut the cord with the Roamio.
     
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    The local CBS affiliate, WLKY, has begun airing PSA's about the upcoming change, slated for Friday October 18th. They've also chosen that date to switch to their new higher-powered broadcast antenna.

    That'll be fun.

    Haven't seen any announcements airing on the other locals yet.

    Edit: Looks like all but one of the locals that are changing are doing so on 10/18. There NBC affiliate, WAVE, seems to be the lone holdout, with no firm date set.
     
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  15. suzannesstud

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    Lexington appears to be doing the same thing. I just saw a PSA on WLEX 18 NBC about rescanning on 10/18. It looks like all remaining stations in Lexington and Louisville are slated to be moved on 10/18 unless otherwise stated except for WRLW-CA 17 which is showing as 05/01/2020.
     
  16. hapster85

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    Too bad they couldn't all do it before the new fall season starts, but I guess they figure OTA viewers are still in the minority.
     
  17. tenthplanet

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    They just figure OTA DVR owners are a minority, those live watchers will just rescan and flip through the channels till what they want shows up.
     
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  18. hapster85

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    No argument here. I'm not personally aware of anyone besides myself using an OTA DVR.
     
  19. Mikeguy

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    Hi, neighbor!* :D

    * OTA all the way here.
     
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    United we stand :) divided..well let's not think about that part. :eek:
     

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