ceton 6 tuner dvr and streamer Q echo

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  1. Jan 10, 2012 #1 of 359
    fatlard

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    http://m.engadget.com/default/artic...xtender-hands-on/&category=classic&postPage=1

    T he company that has almost single handedly spurred the golden age ofCableCARD*has found a new way to deliver its technology to consumers with a 6 tuner multi-room DVR with a 2TB hard drive, codenamed Q, and its companion extender, codenamed Echo. No word on the price of either but both are expected to ship in 2012
     
  2. Jan 10, 2012 #2 of 359
    CoxInPHX

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    Based on price-point of other Ceton devices I'm guessing around $599 for the 6-Tuner DVR.
    Ceton has no subscription
    Ceton is very focused on the customer and interacts regularly in various forums.
    I myself do not like the WMC experience, But this could be a real contender.

    Ceton previews multi-room DVR and Echo extender (hands-on)
    http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/ceton-announces-multi-room-dvr-and-echo-extender-hands-on/

    The naming seems a bit odd though
    TiVo is already using the name Q?
    Dish is already using the name Echo, so is Rovi Passport Echo?
     
  3. Jan 11, 2012 #3 of 359
    bradleys

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    It is interesting... And at that price point, very competitive.

    This might provide a little pressure to get TiVo to deliver a retail preview! :)
     
  4. Jan 11, 2012 #4 of 359
    xberk

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    I don't get it. Does the Ceton DVR work with Satellite, Cable or OTA TV? I don't see a coax connection. Did I miss it?
     
  5. Jan 11, 2012 #5 of 359
    innocentfreak

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    This is just a technical preview for now. It takes coax they just don't have it on the display box.

    It is essentially a TiVo elite with 2 more tuners, a Blu-ray drive, but runs Media Center.

    I will be keeping my eye on it, but I am really happy with my Elite so I would probably have to sell my TiVo HD and InfiniTV4 before buying one.
     
  6. Jan 11, 2012 #6 of 359
    bradleys

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    Uses a cablecard... So it has to be focused a cable.

    Interesting, I do not see coax either. Hmmm
     
  7. Jan 11, 2012 #7 of 359
    CoxInPHX

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    The Coax Dongle attachment is just below the CableCARD slot, the little copper/brass screw hole just like in the Ceton InfiniTV 4

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  8. Jan 11, 2012 #8 of 359
    bradleys

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    Mic in and headphones out seems odd for a unit like this.
     
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    CoxInPHX

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    CoxInPHX

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    In my excitement, I missed the fact that it also included a Blu-ray player.

     
  11. Jan 11, 2012 #11 of 359
    atmuscarella

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    Well this vision is allot closer to the "One Box" concept than anything TiVo has done.

    TiVo pay attention!!

    Enough tuners so you only need one box, a Blu-ray player so you don't need another box to play blu-ray disks. If they get Internet content on par with Boxee and Ruko you will not need another box for that either.

    If they can deliver this at reasonable price ($599 would be a killer price) and if it functions properly, we may finally have the One Box.

    Of course us OTA users will likely still be left out :eek:.
     
  12. Jan 11, 2012 #12 of 359
    hillyard

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    It will replace my tivos if it works as described
     
  13. Jan 11, 2012 #13 of 359
    slowbiscuit

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    This could indeed make Tivo sit up and notice as it is a direct competitor to their cable DVR business, especially the Elite and to a lesser extent Premiere. This might force them to release the Preview.

    Do note that this will also have MoCA support so no need to run ethernet to the extender. And since it's running WMC embedded, it may be customizable with plugins like DVRMSToolbox to allow for auto commercial skip and other neat stuff. I will be very curious as to how many streams/extenders it will support simultaneously over either MoCA or ethernet. No guide data or other extra cost sub either since it is WMC-based, plus your existing extenders such as Xbox360 will work out of the box.

    Can't wait for this one to hit the shelves this year, Tivo really needs the competition now that Moxi is dead.
     
  14. Jan 11, 2012 #14 of 359
    mr.unnatural

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    The Echo can be used as an extender for WMC or for the Q 6-tuner DVR. This is great news for WMC users that have been looking for a good extender. Details are still sketchy, but it would appear that the Echo has Blu-Ray support. No official word has been released yet as to what other codec support will be offered, but this could prove to be a really interesting product. I may have to rethink the idea of using extenders with my WMC PC. It it can support Blu-Ray streaming from my server, I'm in.
     
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    uw69

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    If the price is right, this could be a game changer.
     
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    aaronwt

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    When will it be released?
     
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    NotVeryWitty

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    This.

    Tivo takes a lot of hits on TCF for taking a long time to deliver on their promises. Ceton doesn't exactly have a great record for meeting their delivery dates, either.
     
  18. Jan 11, 2012 #18 of 359
    fyodor

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    I'd be shocked if it's under $1000. Their 6 tuner card is $299 by itself. Once you throw in the cost of a fast SFF PC, blu-ray reader, licenses, and the premium you can charge for an integrated device it's going to be pretty expensive.

     
  19. Jan 11, 2012 #19 of 359
    fyodor

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    A lot of this has to do with the delays in CableCard certification, which is to some extent outside Ceton's control. My understanding is that this uses their existing cablecard tuner and won't require separate certification.

    That being said, releasing a finished AV product to market is new for Ceton so it'll be interesting to see how they pull it off.
     
  20. Jan 11, 2012 #20 of 359
    atmuscarella

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    My $599 price reference was in regards to post #2. I actually agree that $1000 is much more likely and based on the cost of other custom made HTPS could actually be more. In the end Price will determine if it is viable or not but I would think that even at $1000+ that it would be, if it worked correctly.
     

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