CES product and programming announcements

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  1. Jan 8, 2006 #121 of 129
    tbeckner

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    It appears that the tuner will not likely be a "PCI card". All of the prototype CableCard tuners, including the internal one all connect via a USB connector, the internal one only uses the slot for power and nothing else. Currently, even the ATI OCUR CableCard tuner in both the external and internal versions connects via a USB connector.

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  2. DarrylM

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    To those of you saying D* must have thrown money at MS to get them to make the integration with MCE so prominent, I very highly doubt that. This announcement is, IMO, a bigger win for MS than it is for D*. In fact my reaction when I first heard the news was "wow, I wonder how much MS had to pay D* to play nice with Vista" - just the opposite of your reaction.

    Probably the biggest beef current MCE users have with MCE is the inability to get HD content. The only HD you can get into MCE right now is over-the-air locals. MCE enthusiasts were stoked when the support for CableCard in Vista was announced a couple of months ago, but we satellite subscribers expected to be left out in the cold for the foreseeable future.

    Just to show I'm not alone in how cool I think this announcement is, here's a quote from an MCE enthusiast's blog:

    Since this is my first post I can't include the URL to the blog, but the poster's name is Thomas Hawk if you want to search for it. Just about any MCE enthusiast blog includes a comparable statement of joy related to this announcement.

    And yes, we'll definitely need to wait until Vista comes out. It includes a new feature called Protected Video Path (PVP) which prevents media piracy. Without PVP, MS couldn't get CableCard certified. I'm sure the satellite providers would be equally reluctant to allow their media into a PC without the protection of PVP. That means that we not only have to wait for Vista, but there won't be a port to XP.
     
  3. ebonovic

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    There is no contest... It is definenlty more of a win for Microsoft...
    But doesn't hurt DirecTV either...

    You are also correct in thinking that we will have to wait for Vista for the card... just makes sense... but it is possible that we may see the Content sharing (between DirecTV DVRs and MCE, with the MCE2005 versions)
     
  4. tbeckner

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    I am not trying to disagree with you or the other person, but there is no doubt that the CableCard tuner is a far bigger win for Microsoft than the DirecTV tuner, mainly because it would likely mean access to almost 8 times as many users as a DirecTV tuner would allow access to. Yet the CableCard announcement was not promoted as prominently as the DirecTV and Sky announcement was. See the KEYNOTE webcast by Bill Gates.

    There where NO working or prototypes of the DirecTV or Sky tuners, but there where working and prototypes of the CableCard tuners including the HP and ATI OCUR models.

    I really am not in disagreement with either of you, because for DirecTV subscribers this is the first announcement we have really been able to cheer about since 1994. Although it is likely that we will not have anything tangible to show for this announcement for another year, especially since Microsoft has been missing their internal checkpoints for Vista builds, see announcements this past week about missed code complete builds.

    And for the average JOE on the street, the DirecTV tuner MCE announcement will not mean anything, because the average JOE on the street is unlikely to buy and/or build a $2G machine just for this capability. This announcement really is only for geeks or the semi-rich. (I just know someone is going take exception to that statement).
     
  5. dswallow

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    Cable companies really dislike being forced to have CableCard devices. DirecTV's mindset is probably just different.
     
  6. tbeckner

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    I have to agree with you that the cable industry seems to be currently stuck in the 1990's.

    But hopefully that will change when more and more devices have CableCard capability and users start to resist to the leasing of STB equipment. At some point the situation will be like the BORG (Star Trek), the resistance of the cable industry to adopt the CableCard will become futile. But that currently is not the situation today.
     
  7. Kanyon71

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    Geeks? lol isn't that what most people would call the majority of us here?
     
  8. tbeckner

    tbeckner TiVo Fan

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    You never know how people will take that word. Yet I tell my kids that everytime someone calls them a geek, they should remind them that the richest person in the world is a geek.
     
  9. Kanyon71

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    You've got that right. If it weren't for most of us so called geeks most people in this world couldn't function as they do now. Who do they think comes up with all this technology and keeps it running? There are far worse things you could call me.
     

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