CES product and programming announcements

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  1. Jan 6, 2006 #101 of 129
    Kanyon71

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    Maybe I am missing something here but I never saw anything where MS said you must buy an Xbox 360 and only the 360 to work as an extender. From what I saw you can use that, (I think there is even a kit for the original Xbox out there), The DirecTV DVR, the extenders from other companies are also out there. Sorry but that just sounds like talkof someone who doesn't like MS and just wants to bash them. I am FAR from an MS fan boy but unless they say that you can ONLY use the 360 I see no reason to bash them.
     
  2. Jan 6, 2006 #102 of 129
    ebonovic

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    TheSlacker

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    WindowsXP and WindowsCE (PocketPC, Windows Mobile, or whatever they're calling it these days) are already in use in many consumer electronics. Just look at the new XBOX 360. I haven't had any problems so far, and it is very advanced. Also, many car navigation and control systems are running an auto specific version of Windows (I think Honda is one of Microsoft's customers).
     
  4. Jan 6, 2006 #104 of 129
    dswallow

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    The computer attached to stress testing equipment was running Windows.

    The computers in the operating room that provided info from all the sensors and cameras where I had a Cardiac Catheterization procedure were running Windows.

    Windows, Windows, Everywhere. :)
     
  5. Jan 6, 2006 #105 of 129
    nhaigh

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    Yes, but we're talking about the risk of not recording Lost :D :D :D
     
  6. Jan 6, 2006 #106 of 129
    tbeckner

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    As Earl said in the post right below your post I quoted above, the XBOX 360 is the only HD extender at the moment.

    And as far as being a MS basher, well I am a MS Partner, so I do know where my bread is buttered.

    I do think it is crazy to spend that type of money to view content on TV's. If I had only one TV, then it wouldn't be so important, but with three TV's or more it starts to get expensive.

    Actually, I am excited that after 11 plus years I will finally get a chance to have a PC tuner for DirecTV, but if you didn't notice, there is no release date, there are no specifications, and there is no working prototype, just PURE VAPORWARE. And to all of that you have to wait for a MCE version of Vista. It could be more than a year and half (mid 2007), and another CES before we get sometime. All of this is why I am not going to get excited about something that is no more than SMOKE and MIRRORS.
     
  7. Jan 6, 2006 #107 of 129
    tbeckner

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    Now that is SCARY!
     
  8. Jan 6, 2006 #108 of 129
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    ebonovic

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    With Microsoft Releasing Media Center to OEMs now... It is not to hard to get a higher powered PC up and running with the Media Center... (aka.. It is on my list of things to do the next couple weekends)

    So, sure Vista might be a few quarters away, but Media Center (as it is today) is certainly here.

    I would love to have a single PC that record everything.. that would be nice... but as you said that is still at least a good year if not 2 away from happening... (could you see a Media PC that had DirecTV, Dish (if they created one), Cable-Co's (if you happen to have more then one... you could do it), OTA, squeeze in a 16ft dish.....

    NICE.... :D Okay, I have to stop drooling now.
     
  10. Jan 6, 2006 #110 of 129
    tbeckner

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    Agreed it is exciting, but then again, the current MCE will not run these tuners and these tuners (CableCard (but at least there where CableCard prototypes available) or DirecTV) are at least a year or two away.

    I would say that you get excited about building a MCE box at this time next year, after a MCE version of Vista has been released and maybe by then you can buy a NON-OEM CableCard tuner.

    Currently this is ALL PURE VAPORWARE, with the DirecTV tuner even further out than the CableCard tuners.
     
  11. Jan 6, 2006 #111 of 129
    ebonovic

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    I agree.... This is getting scary, that we are agreeing so much....
     
  12. Jan 6, 2006 #112 of 129
    ericlhyman

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    What does a 250GB SATA hard drive currently retail for? Will this be a plug and play item that does not require any software hacking?
     
  13. Jan 6, 2006 #113 of 129
    tbeckner

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    Actually you can buy an eSATA external enclosure for about $50 and buy a SATA drive and install it, although the last time I checked the enclosures, they where limited to 400GB.

    So the bare minimum cost is $50 for the enclosure and the current cost of a 250GB SATA internal drive, which is about $98 (which includes shipping).

    Vantec has a new enclosure that has an eSATA and a USB 2.0 interface, but it is still COMING.

    Seagate announced at CES, an eSATA 500GB Hard Drive, but I have no idea what it costs or when it will be released.
     
  14. Jan 6, 2006 #114 of 129
    TheRatPatrol

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    Ok, stupid question time, but what does MCE stand for? Thanks. :D
     
  15. Jan 6, 2006 #115 of 129
    lee espinoza

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    Media Center Edition
     
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    tbeckner

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  17. Jan 7, 2006 #117 of 129
    zlt1

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    Well if DTV releases a PC CARD DTV, what would prevent TiVo from building a one off box of the S3 that has a slot for the (user added??) DTV PC Card?

    I guess I am making an assumption that there will be an (open/free?) api for the DTV PC Card
     
  18. Jan 7, 2006 #118 of 129
    dswallow

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    Well, the issue will be appropriate drivers for the card for the OS TiVo uses. But realisitically, even with DirecTV having gone with NDS, there's no reason DirecTV wouldn't provide what's needed to create the necessary drivers to a developer like TiVo who has a previous relationship with DirecTV. The main thing would be if a small company like TiVo would want to create and support such a device for direct sale.
     
  19. Jan 8, 2006 #119 of 129
    Rob00GT

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    I'm afraid I've allowed myself to get excited about all the "news" from DirecTV. The realist in me agrees with most of you that a PCI tuner card is at LEAST 18 months away. That just sucks... especially when "free to air" PCI cards are available right now.

    When it does come out it will probably lack an onboard MPEG chip and rely on software and the computer's CPU to process the signals. That would be just about par for the course! :mad:
     
  20. Jan 8, 2006 #120 of 129
    jfh3

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    Ditto. DirecTV seems to have forgotten that their first priority should be providing top quality programming. Not sure I even want a PC tuner for DTV, certainly not if I can't use it to get true HD programming and not a handful of HDlite channels.
     

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