CES product and programming announcements

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  1. Jan 5, 2006 #81 of 129
    dswallow

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    Believe it or not the DirecTV DVR can't record something before it is broadcast either.

    Contrary to what DirecTV marketing staff seems to believe, offering a show for a fee earlier than broadcast on a free network is called "pay per view" not "on demand". DirecTV is just hiding that show from non R15 (and eventually HR20) users. If it were listed on their schedule as a PPV airing, anyone with a receiver could buy it, since it's being broadcast by DirecTV.
     
  2. Jan 5, 2006 #82 of 129
    ebonovic

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    :D maybe not for the PSP though... but for equivilent devices... VERY VERY GOOD

    Re go back to the start of the thread and read about the Humax, Lycra (sp?) and the Microsoft MCE (and device) announcements
     
  3. Jan 5, 2006 #83 of 129
    tivolocity

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    I'm just a little curious if the Windows MCE integration had anything to do with the absense of the HMC. Also, while I doubt there would ever be a Directv PCI card, I'm wondering if Windows MCE could support connecting to one or more Directv receivers via USB? In the perfect "Microsoft" home, if you could connect 4 HD receivers to Windows MCE, and then stream live and recorded content around the house, you could achieve the same result as the HMC. Which would let Directv off the hook for developing, and the even bigger issue of supporting, the networking component of the HMC.
     
  4. Jan 5, 2006 #84 of 129
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    DIRECTV Embraces Interoperability; DIRECTV to Implement DLNA and UPnP Interoperability into Next Generation Set-Top Boxes; Will Also Introduce SVP Compatible Silicon as It Becomes Available
    LAS VEGAS, Jan 05, 2006 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- With the promise to significantly enhance home entertainment for DIRECTV customers across the country, DIRECTV, Inc., the nation's leading digital television service provider, announced today a number of steps it has taken that embrace interoperability.

    DIRECTV has recently joined the Digital Living Network Alliance (DLNA). DLNA is focused on delivering an interoperability framework of design guidelines based on open industry standards to complete the cross-industry digital convergence. DIRECTV will implement DLNA interoperability guidelines in its next generation set-top boxes that will enable the secure transfer of content within individual DIRECTV customer homes.

    DIRECTV has also recently joined the Universal Plug and Play (UPnP) Forum and announces its support for UPnP functionality as described in the DLNA interoperability guidelines. DIRECTV incorporation of UPnP technology will provide the base for DIRECTV product interoperability in digital home networks.

    "Building upon DLNA and UPnP, DIRECTV will continue to lead in delivering the best experiences and ease of use that emerging technologies offer to our more than 15 million customers nationwide," said Romulo Pontual, executive vice president and CTO, DIRECTV, Inc.

    In addition, DIRECTV, along with conditional access provider, NDS, will begin implementing SVP technology into DIRECTV next generation set-top boxes. As silicon integrating SVP technology becomes available, DIRECTV plans to introduce compatible silicon into newly manufactured DIRECTV set-top boxes.

    "As a leading distributor of premium entertainment, content security is of paramount importance to DIRECTV," added Pontual.

    About DIRECTV, Inc.

    DIRECTV, Inc. is the nation's leading digital television service provider with more than 15 million customers. DIRECTV and the Cyclone Design logo are registered trademarks of DIRECTV, Inc. DIRECTV (NYSE:DTV) is a world-leading provider of digital multichannel television entertainment services. DIRECTV is approximately 34 percent owned by News Corporation.

    SOURCE: DIRECTV, Inc.

    DIRECTV, Inc.
    Robert Mercer, 310-726-4683
    310-200-3192 (On-site)
     
  6. Jan 5, 2006 #86 of 129
    tivolocity

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    A PC Tuner!!!!!

    Strike me down!!!!

    Intel, DIRECTV Advance Digital Home Entertainment Experience; Intel and DIRECTV Announce First Ever Premium Digital Broadcast Entertainment Service to Embrace Intel(R) Viiv(TM) Technology
    LAS VEGAS, Jan 05, 2006 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- DIRECTV, Inc., the nation's leading digital television service provider, and Intel Corporation today announced a ground-breaking joint effort to enable remote viewing of DIRECTV's entertainment services and programming to PC screens, laptops, portable media players and set-top boxes through Intel(R) Viiv(TM) technology later in 2006. The move gives DIRECTV's customers a seamless way to enjoy the company's programming from the television, PC and personal consumer electronic devices.

    The companies also plan an extensive joint marketing campaign that educates consumers about the benefits of DIRECTV's entertainment experience and Intel's digital home efforts.

    Announced today at the 2006 Consumer Electronics Show, DIRECTV expects to enable this capability on the company's next-generation set-top boxes with deployment to customers slated for later this year. The two companies also plan to collaborate on the development of a PC tuner that would enable DIRECTV customers to enjoy the high-quality digital DIRECTV entertainment experience. This would include a broad range of high-definition, exclusive and original programming from DIRECTV's lineup -- available on PCs, laptop computers or other hand-held devices. DIRECTV expects to complete the product verification later this year and provide the tuner through PC makers which offer Intel Viiv technology-based PCs.

    "DIRECTV recognizes consumers are viewing television on PCs and portable and mobile devices. The power of Intel Viiv technology will enable us to offer consumers nationwide the best entertainment experience -- when, where and how they want it," said Chase Carey, CEO, DIRECTV, Inc. "Through our strategic relationship with Intel and joint commitment to an industry standards-based approach for securely delivering a premium TV experience on the PC, we will advance how our customers view and enjoy their digital programming."

    "Simply said, this effort will help reshape how consumers view their digital programming with a television leader such as DIRECTV embracing the PC and Intel Viiv technology," said Paul Otellini, Intel president and CEO. "DIRECTV is providing its customers with ultimate control over how and when they enjoy their entertainment and information, which also accelerates our shared vision of delivering an easier and more secure digital entertainment experience to families when and where they want it."

    The introduction of Intel Viiv technology today marks an effort by Intel to enable a broad choice of entertainment and information from around the world so that consumers can more easily download, view, manage, store and enjoy their content anytime and on a variety of devices.

    About DIRECTV, Inc.

    DIRECTV, Inc. is the nation's leading digital television service with more than 15 million customers. DIRECTV and the Cyclone Design logo are registered trademarks of DIRECTV, Inc. DIRECTV (NYSE:DTV) is a world-leading provider of digital multichannel television entertainment. DIRECTV is approximately 34 percent owned by News Corporation.

    About Intel Corporation

    Intel, the world leader in silicon innovation, develops technologies, products and initiatives to continually advance how people work and live. Additional information about Intel is available at www.intel.com/pressroom.

    Intel and Intel Viiv are trademarks or registered trademarks of Intel Corporation or its subsidiaries in the United States and other countries.

    Other names and brands may be claimed as the property of others.

    SOURCE: DIRECTV, Inc.

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    Robert Mercer, 310-726-4683
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  7. Jan 5, 2006 #87 of 129
    emeril2k1

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    "The DIRECTV Plus DVR is the most advanced DVR available on the market"

    :rolleyes:
     
  8. Jan 5, 2006 #88 of 129
    TheRatPatrol

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    Everyone except Tivo. :rolleyes:

    Maybe they'll bring back MS Ultimate TV. :eek: DOH, did I say that here in Tivo form, I'm sorry. :D
     
  9. Jan 5, 2006 #89 of 129
    tivolocity

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    With the announcement of a PC tuner, I think I know what happened to the HMC.
     
  10. Jan 5, 2006 #90 of 129
    lee espinoza

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    with a DIRECTV PC tuner will you still buy or get a HMC?
     
  11. Jan 5, 2006 #91 of 129
    SpacemanSpiff

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    Of course the BIG question is how many of these initiatives and products that are announced at CES actually make it into production and how many are just press releases to get potential customers hyped up, and potential competitors freaked out.
     
  12. Jan 6, 2006 #92 of 129
    tbeckner

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    Actually the "R15" will not support the PSP, based upon the current announcements. He might have a far better chance with a SA TiVo, because the SA TiVo supports the PSP, not any of the DirecTV DVRs.
     
  13. Jan 6, 2006 #93 of 129
    tbeckner

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    The worst part of the Microsoft MCE announcement is that at this time you are going to have to buy XBOX 360s to stick all over the house to view the content from the MCE box. Greedy Microsoft jerks.
     
  14. Jan 6, 2006 #94 of 129
    tbeckner

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    The only problem I see with the DirecTV PC tuner, is that is likely a year away, and if it is like the cablecard tuners, it will be USB connected and will require Windows Vista, which could also be a year away. In addition, the cablecard tuners will be OEM only until 2007, so you will have to buy a new PC from a supported hardware vendor to get one and it could likely be the same for the DirecTV tuner.

    Don't take this the wrong way. I have been a DirecTV customer for over 11 years, but the announcements at this years CES appear to be VAPORWARE and are more in line with a Gorilla BEATING ITS CHEST, than anything of substance.

    And what is even worst, since I have been in IT for over 33 years, have been building all of my own machines for the last eight years now, and being a loyal DirecTV customer for those 11 plus years, I have wanted a DirecTV tuner for as long as anybody in this forum could have.

    Almost everything from the HD-DVD to the promised downloading of content are all promised in the hope of being the loudest thunder at the show to drown out the other guys and not actually deliver a currently working useful product.

    Even Microsoft was pounding their chest and even pounding it for DirecTV, likely because they where promised some big bucks to do so. Microsoft did not release detailed specification nor did they demonstrate a working product that tied into DirecTV, just vague wave the arms concepts and even vaguer promises.

    I plan on disregarding most of what has been promised at CES 2006 and I will wait to get excited when the actual working products have been launched.

    This “Vaporware” with all of its vague promises and arm waving and NO real actual working prototypes is just too insane to take seriously.

    Although, in concept I am somewhat surprised to see that at least in concept, the new Series 3 SA TiVo will have an Ethernet connection and will support eSATA, both of which I wish the other lame DVRs would have supported.

    Additional Edit:

    I would say that DirecTV might have dropped the HMC in favor of connecting to a Microsoft MCE server. Although I highly doubt that the current requirement that the outlying clients currently have to be XBOX 360s will fly in a DVR centric client/server environment.

    There is no doubt that if the requirement continues to be that the clients have to be XBOX 360s to receive video feeds from a MCE server, I will never buy into that WORLD (a very Greedy Microsoft World), especially since the XBOX 360 is SO EXPENSIVE. The clients need to be priced no more than $199 to make that work for me.

    Let’s face it, Bill Gates would not have a problem affording a $299 to $399 XBOX 360s as a client to a $1,500 to $2,000 MCE server, but I do.
     
  15. Jan 6, 2006 #95 of 129
    ddobson

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    But since they can't have money without the customers, perhaps they have realized they do need to love us..... just a little. ;)
     
  16. Jan 6, 2006 #96 of 129
    tbeckner

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    I agree with you completely, but then again, people bought into the Starz experiment.

    And if a person is already on DirecTV and hasn't had a chance to use real OnDemand, then they will likely NOT UNDERSTAND. It is just like attempting to tell someone in the early days of TiVo what a TiVo was. Until they have experienced true OnDemand, most people have a ZERO UNDERSTANDING of what true OnDemand actually is.

    But believe it or not, the DirecTV people understand what a THREAT real OnDemand is, so they had to do something, and within the limits of their broadcast capability, the only thing they could do was what they did, a poor man's OnDemand.

    I really doubt that the FAKE OnDemand on the "R15" or the "HR20" will be able to change the DirecTV churn rate very much, and once people start to experience true OnDemand in the cable/FIOS/IPTV world and actually show their DirecTV neighbors what true OnDemand is (Verizon currently with 7,000+ hours of OnDemand video), then the war will be over.

    I have been waving my arms this last fall, trying to point out that all this other junk is just that junk, and the true battle will happen on the OnDemand battlefield, and that the one-way limited bandwidth video delivery services like DirecTV "DO NOT HAVE A CHANCE" to even win even a small battle, little alone the ultimate war.

    The "My VOD" on the "R15" and likely the "HR20" is just a poor example of an attempt of plugging the dike.
     
  17. Jan 6, 2006 #97 of 129
    tbh999

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    Well, I have (about once a year or so). But I agree it's much better than it used to be.
     
  18. Jan 6, 2006 #98 of 129
    ebonovic

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    XBOX360 is expensive... yes... but hey what do you expect now adays...

    The XBOX360 is intresting as a "remote" device for the MCE and possible the DVR.
    But I like the angle of being able to pull recordings from my MCE System on the newer DVRs.

    This opens the door big time for me, as with a CableCard for the MCE, I could have the best of both worlds... I could "gulp" get a small package from Comcast to get the few HD networks that they have exclusive, hook those to the MCE, and then use my R15/HR20 around the house to view that programming.

    I don't see myself watching much via the XBOX360... Since if I have an HDTV hooked to it, and HD tuner is not going to be very far behind it.
     
  19. Jan 6, 2006 #99 of 129
    tivolocity

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    Windows Media Center Extenders currently exist. I'm sure they'll be coming out with HD versions. Now the pricing may not be that much different than an XBOX 360. But, if people are that opposed to an XBOX, I'm sure there will be options.
     
  20. Jan 6, 2006 #100 of 129
    tivolocity

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    I'm with Earl. A PC Tuner and MCE integration opens up all kinds of options. My personal preferred architecture has always been to have a central server and set top boxes.
     

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