CES 2006: DirecTV Plus HD DVR with pics!!!

Discussion in 'DirecTV TiVo Powered PVRs & Receivers' started by lee espinoza, Jan 5, 2006.

  1. Jan 7, 2006 #101 of 115
    tbeckner

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    Actually it is in less that 1% of my 600+ posts and I only use it to put a frame of reference on my discussion to help explain my position. It is NOT A BRAG, in fact, it shows my age, and in today's world in the technology field having that many years of experience is actually looked down on. Believe me, people believe that you cannot know what their 18 year old nephew can know about computers, of course until their 18 year old nephew screws up, but then again that is another story.

    I can guarantee you that I am not as good at GUI interfaces as some of the younger developers, but then again thank God that I don’t have to compete in that marketplace. Where my knowledge actually helps, is in using “COMMON SENSE” in trouble shooting, equipment selection, and in depth application and systems knowledge. But I CANNOT compete in the GUI development area, in addition SQL development came very late in my career, so I am somewhat behind long term SQL developers.
     
  2. Jan 7, 2006 #102 of 115
    ebonovic

    ebonovic has gone his way...

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    I have learned a LOT from those that have been doing it for 33 years (or more)...

    Never underestimate the power of first hand knowledge.
     
  3. Jan 7, 2006 #103 of 115
    tbeckner

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    And I am very sorry that the "R15" was dragged into the discussion. The real discussion started out far differently.

    And I will be just as happy as any current "R15" owner, if the few "bug" (your words) fixes in the DVR are fixed soon, because I worry that the CableCard people and the cable industry will continue to drag their feet, which will hurt TiVo, and then where do we all go, to a Motorola, Scientific American, or Moxi cable DVR, I think not. ReplayTV has dropped out of the open market DVR, so if TiVo doesn't nake it in the cable marketplace, what choice do we have, a DirecTV DVR that currently has some real "Design" situations, which will likely be reflected in the "HR20".

    So, do you understand my point of view. I am hoping that DirecTV corrects their "OVERSIGHTS" and makes the DirecTV DVR as functional as my DirecTiVos. Because someday the "R15", "HR20", or one of their newer models maybe my only choice, and I really do not want to have to give up too much.
     
  4. Jan 7, 2006 #104 of 115
    JWThiers

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    I agree 100%, but a Tivo in and of itself takes care of my Video On Demand needs (Timeshifting). Since I don't have cable I can't check for sure, but I think you can still call on the phone and get ppv. How many of you with hacked D* tivo's don't have your unit connected to the phone (no on remote ppv) and have to use the web or call for ppv? Sounds like the same limitations to me.
     
  5. Jan 7, 2006 #105 of 115
    ebonovic

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    Come-on now... let''s not start the Weekend by AGREEING again... that is no fun...

    :) Have a good weekend...
     
  6. Jan 7, 2006 #106 of 115
    tbeckner

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    Actually not all OnDemand on cable is PPV, in the case of my cable company, they bundle HBO OnDemand and the cost difference between DirecTV HBO and cable HBO with the bundled HBO OnDemand is only $2.25 per month (150 hours per month of bundled HBO OnDemand).

    Although I have heard from a moderator just this morning that the CableCard 2.0 specification will allow for PPV and OnDemand selection, so that takes care of the problem with the Series 3 TiVo and cable.

    I really believe that the NEXT major battlefield in the video delivery war will be OnDemand, and DirecTV will never have the bandwidth to compete. So, it was very important that the CableCard 2.0 specification allow OnDemand and secondarily PPV selection.

    Oh, and I have three hacked DirecTiVos and all of them are connected to the phone line, but they don't need to be. I hacked them initially with InstantCake and PTVNet, and then added the ZIPPER, which allows them to be connected to the phone line for CALLER-ID and PPV ordering if required. In addition all three of them have MRV (Multi-Room Viewing), which has to be the greatest feature of all.
     
  7. Jan 7, 2006 #107 of 115
    tbeckner

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    You have a great weekend also.
     
  8. Jan 7, 2006 #108 of 115
    tbeckner

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    Your reply is greatly appreciated.

    I wouldn't wish age or any other type of discrimination on anyone, and I never have. But even in the most subtle ways it is hard to handle.

    Lucky for me I have clients that understand the important of experience, especially after they have been burnt by the inexperienced.
     
  9. Jan 7, 2006 #109 of 115
    LeeHarvey

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    Phrasing this as a choice between dual 30 minutes and a single 90 minute buffer forces a false dilemma. There are an infinite amount of choices a software designer (or architect;experience engineer; UI specialist;etc) around the topics of buffers/buffer length/user experience.

    There is no reason there couldn't have been 2 90 minute buffers. It would seem obvious that they could please users like you and those who like the dual buffer approach with this choice.

    They didn't go this way - and, as someone who knows quite a bit about software development and who also knows the general architecture of DVRs - they *likely* didn't go this way because of bad software (or hardware) design choices early on.

    My own opinion is that the dual tuner abilities of the software were 'hacked' onto their existing single tuner software - and not very carefully - leaving lots of strange little problems people have described.

    This doesn't mean they are evil, they just aren't nearly as careful as the Tivo designers.
     
  10. Feb 8, 2006 #110 of 115
    lromoda

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    To try and clarify what a single buffer means to us....

    Is it true that we cannot record 2 shows while watching either of those shows?
     
  11. Feb 8, 2006 #111 of 115
    SecureTalk

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    You can record 2 shows at once and watch either of them, switch between them or watch another previously recorded show.
     
  12. Feb 8, 2006 #112 of 115
    ebonovic

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    Based on what the R15 can do (The SD version DVR)

    You can certainly record 2 shows, and watch either one of them (or a pre-recorded one) at the same time.

    But the HR20 code has not been finalized (since the product hasn't been released)
     
  13. emeril2k1

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    Looks like someone lost a bet! :D
     
  14. rminsk

    rminsk TiVoted TiVo User

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    The HR20 was out before the Series 3. How did he loose the bet?
     
  15. ebonovic

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    I wonder why this very old thread was brought back up...

    The HR20 was out nearly a month ago.
    And people have been able to order from Best Buy (nationally) for at least a week already...

    Maybe the Poster, was saying "I" won the bet, and other lost...
     

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