CES 2006: DirecTV Plus HD DVR with pics!!!

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  1. Jan 6, 2006 #41 of 115
    Fofer

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    Two Ethernet ports? Hmm. I'm wondering what that's all about? A pass-through to easily share broadband with the house?
     
  2. Jan 6, 2006 #42 of 115
    ebonovic

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    Probably more like...

    Mini-Switch inside, so if you have 1 RJ-45 port in the wall, you can connect it to the HR20 and then still have a port to hook to say your XBOX360 or any other network device, without having to install a switch/hub at that point.

    Or maybe it will support TWO networks... Private LAN for sharing content amongst systems and one "PUBLIC" Lan to talk to computers and broadband connections.
     
  3. Jan 6, 2006 #43 of 115
    ebonovic

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    My rule of thumb... by the time I can buy it (which I try to be one of the first.. :D ) the next thing is already on the way.
     
  4. Jan 6, 2006 #44 of 115
    Fofer

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    Yeah that's what I was initially thinking... you just described it better than me. :D


    That could make sense too. I suppose splitting features over the two distinct ports would also help them cut down on the possibility of folks sharing content over the "public" LAN (I.E. over the internet.)
     
  5. Jan 6, 2006 #45 of 115
    stevel

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    CableCARD has been available for most of 2005, but cable companies by and large make you ask for it, as they'd much rather rent you a box. It doesn't surprise me that Comcast, etc., don't promote CableCARD to their customers.
     
  6. Jan 6, 2006 #46 of 115
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    They may not resist as much as you think. From what I've seen, the cablecard can be rented for around $2 a month. For example, Adelphia's site has them listed from $1.75 and up depending on your area. So that $10 a month STB rental becomes a $8 loss of income. But from people switching to the Series three, they will neen two cablecards as of right now. So it is really only a loss of $6 a month. Combine that with the new subs from people switch to cable from D* or E*, and the reduced overhead on keeping a replacement supply of STB DVRs, I think they will come out ahead... just my .02 cents. :)
     
  7. Jan 6, 2006 #47 of 115
    ebonovic

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    When I was digging through Comcast's site... they said it was free.

    But the FAQ.. basically the way it was worded... But you won't get this, and this, and this, and this... unless you have OUR box.

    And they wanted to charge you an "Professional" installation fee for the CableCard.

    Time will tell on this one... But my gut guess...
    1) Cable-Co's Cable Card, may or may not play nicely with products out there
    2) Since the Cable2.0 cards are not "standardized" yet (correct?), then some of all the new "cool" features, on CableCo's you will need their box...
    3) Cable-Co's will find some way some how to ding you per cable-card (fee wise)

    Time will tell, but I tend to trust DirecTV a tad more then my local Cable-Co (comcast)
     
  8. Jan 6, 2006 #48 of 115
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    I suspect you're right, because TiVo will actually include a proper testing cycle in the schedule. :D
     
  9. Jan 6, 2006 #49 of 115
    emeril2k1

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    I'll take that bet!

    The HR20 is a mock-up look at the pictures, particularly the back.

    Now look at the Series 3 pictures. Look at the back.

    The Series 3 is Alpha, probably close to Beta. HR20 looks to be VERY EARLY alpha, if that.

    Cable card is out NOW! (Maybe not everywhere, but I know 3 people at work that have them already.)
     
  10. Jan 6, 2006 #50 of 115
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    Yep, and next step for HR20 is the paying beta customers.
     
  11. Jan 6, 2006 #51 of 115
    SpacemanSpiff

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    Did anybody see what the actual output of the HR20-250 looks like?
     
  12. Jan 6, 2006 #52 of 115
    emeril2k1

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    Doubt it. They probably haven't even started writing software for it.

    Are the any pictures of it actually running, or is it just a shell?
     
  13. Jan 6, 2006 #53 of 115
    classicsat

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    My understanding is they are due to ratify standards for CC1.0-Multistream middle 06.

    The CC TiVo does't need a CC to work, just to access pay programs.
    There should be some unencrypted channels on ones cable system, plus it will do ATSC OTA as well.
     
  14. Jan 6, 2006 #54 of 115
    classicsat

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    If there is indeed two ethernet ports, I'd guess one is for connection to your regular home network, but recorded content is not available on it, and the other one is for a special closed (perhaps gigabit) network for the HMC boxes to communicate with only each other, to relay content.
     
  15. Jan 6, 2006 #55 of 115
    HogarthNH

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    DirecTV does not use paying customers in beta programs anymore. All testers are DirecTV employees. Period.

    Lame? Sure. Shortsighted? Yep. But it's what they're doing.

    I assure you the software is very close to completion -- at least as stable as the R15 software. While that's not saying much, NDS has put a great deal of effort into it. Certainly not "haven't even started writing software".

    H
     
  16. Jan 6, 2006 #56 of 115
    Kevdog

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    Anyone want to speculate on what this thing is going to cost? Think they can sell it for under $500?
     
  17. Jan 6, 2006 #57 of 115
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    Well, it is going to be an interesting decision. Series 3 or DirecTV unit. Right now, my local cable company has a better lineup of HD programs that I like, but I much prefer the DirecTV HD DVR I currently use. I cannot get locals OTA in HD because of antenna restrictions in the home owners agreement so I am stuck with locals in SD and in a small market so it is a long time before I get HD locals from DirecTV.

    Bottom line is that if the price is right... I will probably move to the Tivo Series 3 and cable card when it hits the market unless HD contect is added to my lineup.
     
  18. Jan 6, 2006 #58 of 115
    ebonovic

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    I know CableCard's are out NOW!, that is not what I was leading too.
    What I was leading to is that this is going to be one of the first high profile products out that will challange the new revenue stream that the Cable-Co's just got back... (Aka the rental fees of the boxes).

    I am more intested to see what the ture "availability" of the cable-cards, when people start requesting them.

    Guess it would be insider "betting" if I knew about the true state of what "phase" the HR20 was in....... So, I will leave it at that for now.
    Surprised that the back pannel is "as rough" as it is, but I am still willing to layout there that we will see the HR20 during Q2-2006, and even to the beginning portion of the Q2-2006... I do think it will be about before the T3
     
  19. Jan 6, 2006 #59 of 115
    ebonovic

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    From what I have been told.... DirecTV themselves has written the software for the new PVR series primarily from the ground up. That have used "segments" from SKY+ but overall have pretty much rebuilt it.

    The DirecTV division is writing the code, not the NDS side of the company.
     
  20. Jan 6, 2006 #60 of 115
    spartanstew

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    I think they can, but then again I'm the sort that reads the OP before commenting.


     

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