CEC and the 4K

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream 4K' started by jaselzer, May 14, 2020.

  1. fattymcbuckles

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    I agree as it is now,but if Tivo gets their act together and pushes updates to fix all the problems then I’ll change my vote to Tivo 4K.Tivo. Has a lot of potential to be a great box if they can solve all those various issues on this box.
     
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  2. moyekj

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    To me it's quite a bit more than just the TiVo bugs. The Android TV version of some of the apps themselves like Prime Video are nowhere near as good as on the Fire TV.
     
  3. aaronwt

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    How do you figure? To me they look identical. When I use prime video on my Fire TV 4K sticks, my experience is the same as when I use my Android TV devices.(Shield TVs, Stream 4Ks, etc)

    Only with my Android TV devices they start at a UHD encode or ramp up to it within a second or two. While my FireTV 4K sticks can sometimes take several times longer to ramp up to a UHD encode.
     
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  4. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    I covered it here:
    TiVo Stream 4K versus Fire Stick 4K
    But specifically for Prime Video app here is my comparison:
    * Dedicated buttons for pause/play, ff, rew. With TS4K you have to use the pad and navigate around the screen for any trick function.
    * Much more responsive for pause/play, ff, rew remote presses
    * Has both ff/rew and 10 sec skip back and forwards and they work very fast. This is HUGE improvement over the TS4K app.
    * With Alexa you can skip around videos easily with commands such as "rewind 2 minutes" or "fast forward 1 minute" and the response time is incredibly good.
     
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  5. aaronwt

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    I use the D-Pad for navigation with the Amazon app on all my streaming devices. The issue is with the way the amazon app is designed. Some of the other streaming apps using the D-PAd still have a 30 second skip forward and a 10 second skip back.

    As far as pause and play. Whether the D-Pad is used or an actual Play/pause button it is still basically instant. That is the case with all my streaming devices. There isn't a delay when you hit the OK button. If you are seeing a delay, maybe there is some rf interference in that room?

    I also don't use any of my Echos to navigate by voice with my streaming devices. That is one feature I have no desire to do with my twelve Echo devices.
     
  6. Moebius

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    Funny thing is, if TiVo worked a few of the things out, I actually like it a bit better. They're similar enough in responsiveness (yes Fire is a bit quicker, but not a ton) and general functions, that the TiVo Stream not shoving half screen banners at you on the home page is pretty big. That said, gotta fix CEC and a few of the in-app bugs that seem to be cropping up before that's the case.
     
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  7. BillyClyde

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    Just give ‘em time and TiVo will also have those banners and pre-roll ads slapping us all in the face!
     
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  8. omelet1978

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    Ad me to the list of people that have the Tivo Stream 4K and whose TV turns on randomly.

    I knew we were going to be getting a Beat product but even for Tivo this is pretty bad IMHO.
     
  9. trip1eX

    trip1eX imo, afaik, feels like to me, *exceptions, ~aprox

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    I would assume ads will be coming.
     
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  10. Dan Clarke

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    The Tivo Stream 4K FAQ has been updated to say "Turn off CEC" but for me on a Sony it's called BraviaSYNC and I can't find a way that just "turns off Bravia Sync"...how did this get out of testing. Gah.
     
  11. kpeters59

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    To not turn off the connected device automatically when turning off the TV. Press the HOME button, then select [Settings] → [External Inputs] → [BRAVIA Sync Settings] → [Auto Devices Off] → [Off].
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    Setting “BRAVIA” Sync - Sony.net

    -KP
     
  12. roehlaguila

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    I plugged the TiVo Stream 4K to a smart plug so I can turn it on and off on my phone without disconnecting it.
     
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  13. omelet1978

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    So is there an actual fix for this from Tivo coming rather than the work-around posted on these forums?

    I would not mind getting another Tivo Stream for the bedroom BUT the CEC issue and the TV turning on would not work since I'd be trying to sleep in there. I've set it up so that the screensaver is on in the living room and that is livable.
     
  14. jaselzer

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    I had to unplug mine unfortunately until they fix the CEC issue.
     
  15. sjsaleem

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    I'm also in same situation using Vizio TV and Sonos sound bar. Eagerly waiting for a fix.
     
  16. aaronwt

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    This is what I did with my Stream 4K. I have had no issues with the TV powering up/down. Since I didn't have that functurn turned on. But I found that when my HDMI switch is off, that my receiver keeps wanting to switch to the input that the Stream 4K and HDMi switch is using. If I turn the switch on, then I don't have the problem. But since I already had a Smartthings switch programmed into my Harmony remote, I put the Stream 4K on that, to just turn it off when the HDMi switch gets turned off.
     
  17. Mr. C

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    There is no Android Tv volume. This device relies solely on the tv volume for sound. You may connect a sound bar via bluetooth but Ive seen issues with that as well. It wants to keep re-pairing. The re-pairing issue may be caused from my 500gb Samsung SSD. I was also having issues with my remote too. So I disconnected the Samsung SSD and replaced it with a Sandisk 32gb Flash drive. That seemed to help immensely. I also plugged in an optical wire from the Tv to Soundbar for Sound. But like I said there is no Android Tv volume which means no bluetooth volume. All the buttons on this remote are bluetooth except for volume. The volume is controlled by an IR sensor. They will need to add more options in the sound menu to fix this issue. It also has sound issues with Tivimate. All the channels had to be adjusted to -200ms to fix it.
     
  18. aaronwt

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    Does it have audio issues with other apps? In my use i did not have any audio delay issues with the ten or so apps I used.
     
  19. Dan Clarke

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    This is a great idea. I mean outside of TiVo releasing a product that works the way every other streaming device is supposed to.
     
  20. usamac

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    I simply installed ButtonMapper apk and assigned a button on my remote to pop up a 'toggle power, restart and screen shot' panel. When you use this to turn it off, the tivo stream and cec device will turn off and stay off. This has permanently solved this issue for me.
     

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