CBS Sunday Line Up Delay Issues

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  1. That Don Guy

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    I limited it to Atlanta because I was under the impression that km is in Atlanta. Of course it applies to every NFL city, as well as the cities in those team's extended markets.

    Also remember that, in NFL team cities, if the local team is playing a home game on Fox at 1:00, then CBS has no choice but to air a 4:05 game that day, even if the home game on Fox is blacked out.
     
  2. lpwcomp

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    So you're saying that places like KC and NO got no CBS game at all yesterday?
     
  3. That Don Guy

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    Oooh, you got me on that one - good catch. :eek:

    Week 1 is an exception because every CBS station has to show a 1 PM game (because of CBS's U.S. Open tennis coverage in what would be the 4:05 PM NFL time slot). It may also apply on October 21, as there are no 4:05 games scheduled on Fox that day for some reason (Fox is carrying a baseball postseason game that night "if necessary", but those usually don't start until around 8 Eastern).

    There is another exception; if there is only one 4:05 game scheduled and it is blacked out, that network's station in the home team's city airs a 1:00 game and the other network airs only a 4:25 game; the "every CBS and Fox station gets to show at least one Sunday afternoon game" rule has priority. This can happen in Kansas City on 10/28 and Seattle on 11/11.
     
  4. Hippster

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    According to TVNewser: CBS will now be adjusting their Sunday night schedules 30 minutes later on days they have a 4:00 football game. This will provide SOME relief from football padding madness but not eliminate it entirely.
     
  5. MountainMan41

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    I am usually home Sunday evenings so I go to live TV for a few minutes some time about a half hour after 60 Minutes was supposed to start. At the beginning of each commercial they first go to a watch that shows the elapsed time of the program. If the watch (even showing the second hand...tick, tick, tick) shows 16 minutes after and the real time is 40 minutes after then I know that 60 Minutes is running 24 minutes late.

    Since we watch all three shows that follow 60 Minutes on CBS I only need to pad The Mentalist by an hour and I am safe. The other two shows will be recorded but likely under the programming for the show following it. If I know The Amazing Race is 24 minutes late I can quickly find the beginning. Then I have to watch the end of that show on the beginning of the recording of The Good Wife. If we don't watch more than an hour of Sunday CBS at one sitting I just exit the program and it will resume right where the next show starts. Whew... such hard work. It never was that hard to watch The Wonderful World of Disney when I was a kid. All you needed to do was sit in front of the TV at the appropriate hour and have your sister walk over to the TV and turn it on.:rolleyes:
     
  6. tiams

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    Padding is not an adequate solution when it means you have to give up a show that airs on another channel in the time slot after the one you are padding.
     
  7. tiams

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    Seems like that will just screw things up more. I have 2 tuners. If TAR started on time at 8:00, then at 9:00 I could record something on ABC (Revenge) and something on NBC (The Apprentice). If TAR runs from 8:30-9:30 I have to give up one of the 9:00 shows.
     
  8. That Don Guy

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    First of all, keep in mind that this only applies (a) in the Eastern and Central time zones, and (b) on CBS's nine NFL doubleheader Sundays. The rest of the time/country, the schedule is still the same as before - 60 Minutes at 7 (Eastern/Pacific), TAR at 8, and so on.

    Second, since NFL coverage wasn't going to end at 7 anyway, it doesn't really matter what time they schedule the programs; 60 Minutes will start a few minutes after the last CBS game ends, whether they say it's "supposed to" start at 7:00, 7:30, or 7:41 and 36.2 seconds.

    I think the big question will be, what happens if coverage runs until/past 8:00 Eastern, which is more likely now? When the U.S. Open men's singles final ran an hour long, CBS did pull an hour show from its schedule that night, although it was "only" a Hawaii Five-O repeat; I don't know if it would do the same thing with a new episode of something.

    I heard one theory that the "real" reason for the move was to prevent CBS stations that only got a 1:00 game on a CBS doubleheader day (because it's a station in an NFL team's city and that team has a Sunday home game that is either blacked out or is a 4:05 game on Fox) from showing the end of the NFL coverage before 7:30, but this doesn't make much sense as (a) this would affect at most two stations per week, and (b) the NFL doesn't really mind showing the ends of games in places where they're not supposed to air (I live in the San Francisco area, and occasionally CBS coverage will switch to the end of a blacked-out Raiders game when the game that was being aired in SF ends).
     
  9. lew

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    The Mentalist is scheduled to air at 10:30. CBS won't start the show after 11p, the ratings won't count. 30 minutes of padding should be enough. The only problem would be if football runs very late. CBS decides to skip a different show and air Mentalist earlier the 10:30.

    I'm just going to record Good Wife and Mentalist as a block.
     
  10. Amnesia

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    What's the upside to that?

    It seems to me that you're better off recording in discrete units, that way you can delete them once you're done with them (or determine that they're not needed).
     
  11. lpwcomp

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    The upside is that you don't miss a second or so if "The Good Wife" is split between recordings. Also, if you have FRO SP's for both and "The Mentalist" happens to be a rerun or preempted, you don't risk missing even more of "The Good Wife.

    BTW, even when I did care about the last show of the evening (CSI:Miami), I personally didn't do it that way. I'm just documenting what the upside is.
     
  12. nyny523

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    Why even schedule a program on Sunday nights at 7PM during football season?

    Late games now start at 4:25 - they last a minimum of 3 hours, so you KNOW your 7PM show will NEVER, EVER start on time - pushing your entire Prime Time lineup out.

    I won't even try to watch the Amazing Race this year, and I am scheduling The Good Wife as a 2 hour block on my Season Pass.

    It's frackin' moronic. :rolleyes:

    They should just let football run until 8PM, start 60 Minutes at 8PM and move one of the other Sunday night shows to a different night. Problem solved.
     
  13. jcondon

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    This was what finally got me to dump CSI Miami a couple seasons ago. Missed too many episodes due to CBS's stupid scheduling. Decided I didn't really miss the show so I deleted the season pass. I will not even try to watch anything on CBS on Sunday nights.
     
  14. nyny523

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    If The Good Wife wasn't one of my favorite shows, I would do the same. Instead, I just pad the SP and hour and move on...
     
  15. WhiskeyTango

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    7 minutes late tonight.
     
  16. sieglinde

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    What is really bad is shows being interuppted for sports programming I am not even aware of. I know NFL is on Sundays but last year a car race was delayed and they ran it the next day and I was not even aware of the original car race since I pretty much only follow MLB and NBA and some NFL. Same with golf and tennis matches. I am unaware of them and they do run over sometimes.
     
  17. That Don Guy

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    Change "move one of the other Sunday night shows to a different night" to "pre-empt one of the other Sunday night shows that night" and you not only solve the problem, but you do what Fox already does. You can't move a new episode of The Mentalist or The Good Wife to, say, Saturday night (the only place where CBS has an opening in its schedule) even once, much less five or six times a year, because the show's fans would get confused as to when it's on.

    It can be worse on the west coast - occasionally, when there's a rain delay in a Sunday race on Fox at a track that has lights, and the delay reaches 8:00 Eastern, they will start airing programs during the delay - including airing them at 5 PM in the Pacific time zone!

    As for choosing between sports and scheduled programs, besides the infamous "Heidi Bowl" from almost 50 years ago, I can think of two incidents that help decide the current CBS policy.
    First, sometime in the 1970s or 1980s (boy, that really narrows it down), a golf tournament on CBS went into a playoff that lasted until, I think, 7:30 Eastern. At that point, CBS decided to start airing 60 Minutes. So many people complained - and even Sports Illustrated mentioned it in its magazine (something like, "The winner of Sunday's golf tournament was - oops, we've run out of space") - that CBS announced pretty much the next day that they would never cut away from a live sporting event again.
    Second, in September, 1987, a U.S. Open tennis match was running long, and it cut into the planned start time of CBS's news program, where Dan Rather was reporting on a visit to the USA by Pope John Paul II; Rather, under the impression that "the news comes before sports," walked off the set, and when the match ended suddenly, it took them six minutes to get him back to his desk - but CBS made it clear that the news department works for the network, and not the other way around.

    ABC has an advantage in this; if a race on ABC is running long, it can switch it to one of the ESPN stations.
     
  18. sieglinde

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    ABC could switch to one of the ESPN stations and that would be OK for those with cable. Not everyone has cable.
     
  19. Bierboy

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    I think they were running over an hour late last night; I didn't hang around to check, but it was darn close. I'm padding TAR by 90 minutes now...ridiculous.
     
  20. lpwcomp

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    They were only "running over an hour late" if you failed to notice that they had actually changed the scheduled starting times by half an hour.
     

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