CBS blacked out on AT&T

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  1. compnurd

    compnurd Well-Known Member

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    Fox RSN's are in dispute with Dish right now. Blackouts could start tomorrow
     
  2. ajwees41

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    wrong they can be paid or require must carry, but if they aren't paid or request must carry the end users/customers are out of luck unless they can get ota
     
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  3. NashGuy

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    Yes. And the rules as outlined in the STELAR Act differ somewhat for traditional cable vs. satellite (vs. telco/fiber?), I think.
     
  4. HarleyRandom

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    "a small flat antenna for free to customers in any market affected by a blackout"

    Yeah, as if that works.
     
  5. unclehonkey

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    There were examples of 2 NBC stations in a DMA but Crapcast errr Comcast/NBC Universal took care of that when the affiliation agreement came up for renewal. This is where there were a NBC in an "outer" part of the market and NBC owned the network in the "main" town. So Comcast just refused to allow the other station to renew. This affected WMGM in Atlantic City, NJ (to protect WCAU Philly), WDVM (formerly WHAG) Hagerstwon, MD (to protect WRC Washington DC) and indirectly KENV in Elko, NV (to protect KSL in Salt Lake City which is owned by the LDS Church
     
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  6. ajwees41

    ajwees41 Well-Known Member

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    from Wikipedia

    Provisions of the bill[edit]
    The STELA Reauthorization Act of 2014 amends the Communications Act of 1934, as amended by the Satellite Television Extension and Localism Act of 2010 (STELA), to extend until December 31, 2019.[1]

    Extended Provisions[edit]
    • An exemption from retransmission consent requirements for satellite operators for the carriage of distant network signals to “unserved households”;[2]
    • The prohibition on exclusive retransmission consent contracts;
    • Requirement that television broadcast stations and MVPDs negotiate in good faith.[3]
    New Provisions[edit]
    • Prohibits joint retransmission consent negotiation by two or more independently owned broadcasters;
    • Eliminates the prohibition against changing broadcast signals during the quarterly sweeps;
    • Extends deadline to unwind joint sales agreements for which broadcasters seek a waiver and are found non-compliant under the FCC's attribution rules adopted on March 31, 2014;
    • Repeal of the FCC's integration ban for cable set-top boxes.[4]
    Procedural history[edit]
    The STELA Reauthorization Act of 2014 was introduced into the United States House of Representatives on May 6, 2014 by Rep. Greg Walden (R, OR-2).[5] The bill was referred to the United States House Committee on Energy and Commerce. On July 11, 2014, it was reported (amended) alongside House Report 113-518.[5] The bill passed the House via voice vote on July 22, 2014.[6] President Barack Obama signed the bill into law on December 4, 2014.
     
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  7. Mikeguy

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    It would in my urban area--I'm still getting reception using an indoor, tabletop antenna (ok, a nicer one). ;)
     
  8. NashGuy

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    Depends on where you live. If you live within 20 miles of the broadcast towers (especially if you're on flat terrain), it'll probably work well enough.
     
  9. longrider

    longrider Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Could i replace this with that small, flat antenna?? :) ;)
    antenna.jpg

    I am about 60 miles from the transmitters and that antenna gives me a great signal
     
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  10. wizwor

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    What antenna is that? UHF only?
     
  11. schatham

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    This news made me lookup what this Locast was. Who knew, I get PBS, ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox 25 and CW for free on Roku. They even have a little guide. Non of the Sub channels, ME-TV etc are showing.

    Why have I never heard of this?
     
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  12. Adam C.

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    Locast is a pain to deal with, at least based on my personal experience. On both the Fire TV app and Android app, every 10 minutes the program you are watching gets interrupted with an ad asking you to "donate" $5/month. Once the ad ends, it just goes back to the program guide where you have to manually resume the show you were watching. This is hardly a "donation" in my opinion. More like a $5/month subscription.
     
  13. OrangeCrush

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    The mudflaps are fine for people with excellent UHF signals. I don't have anything against them per se, they're just marketed as working for everybody in every situation which is a straight up lie. Manufacturers really shouldn't be allowed to rate antennas as "x miles" of reception or suggest amplifiers improve reception. But if they're giving them away, fine. They'll work for some customers.

    Well, you could replace it with a potato if you wanted, but I don't think it'd improve your reception. :p
     
  14. longrider

    longrider Well-Known Member TCF Club

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  15. eddyj

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    How does one get this?

    edit: I guess it does not matter to me, since I have a Genie 2

     
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  16. jimborst

    jimborst Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    like normal, last minute deal.
     
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  17. NashGuy

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    If you had a model receiver that the LCC worked with, the best thing would be to call DirecTV's 1-800 number, ask for technical support, and then request the free LCC and antenna. They'll check your local market and equipment to make sure you qualify. I hear that some of the reps don't even know what the LCC is (ha, surprise) but your odds of getting a knowledgeable one are better if you go through technical support.
     
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  18. NashGuy

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    If my hunch is correct about AT&T's future plans, I think we'll see them roll out a network tuner very much like DISH/Sling's AirTV. This would take the OTA signal from the antenna and then stream it on your local network via ethernet/wifi. Such a device could feed free OTA TV to the C71 Android TV box that they will use for their upcoming AT&T TV service but it would probably also work in conjunction with the HS17 for those on DirecTV satellite.
     
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  19. unclehonkey

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    nice antenna

    Here was mine before I moved. I was about 60 miles from Minneapolis and in a valley. Bottom one was for Mankato which was 44 miles away
    IMG_20180918_172348_698.jpg
     
  20. alexofindy

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    There are options for receiving OTA network channels, an antenna being the most obvious, and the home streaming tuners being another. But I'd like full-featured DVR functionality. That's what drove me to Tivo way back when.

    The AirTv sounds like Silicon Dust's major "Home run" products. Judging by Silicon Dust's web site, Silicon Dust is developing a reasonably versatile product line. If they ever release their "Prime 6," a 6 stream QAM tuner that takes a cable card, they may one day replace my Tivo. Their DVR subscription is way cheaper than Tivo's. Don't misunderstand me, I'd like to stick with Tivo; the convenience factor is high. But the lack of a box that does both OTA and QAM, as well as the limited storage expansion options, are getting to be deal breakers.
     
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