Can you side load?

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  1. May 8, 2020 #1 of 78
    Dan203

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    Is there anywhere in the UI to enable development mode so you can side load apps like you can on a FireTV?
     
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    mdavej

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    Mr Flint

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    Yes.

    But, you have to use another app to install the APK.

    In my case I downloaded "Downloader by TROYPOINT" from the store and gave it permissions to install apps from unknown sources. You can give Downloader a URL to an APK to download and then it will attempt to install that APK.
     
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    eherberg

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    I assume those of us using adb at the command prompt would still have that option, as well?
     
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    Dan203

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    Sorry, that thread is 9 pages long and I didn’t have time to read the whole thing
     
  6. May 9, 2020 #6 of 78
    blacknoi

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    apologies, went through the entire thread and somehow missed it. where do you enable the ability to sideload so you can use apps like adblink for example to push an apk not in the androidtv app store?
     
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    mdavej

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    No problem. I don't have this device, but on my other Android TV boxes, go to the bottom of the main screen, select the gear icon for settings, go to security & restrictions and toggle unknown sources to ON.

    Incidentally, for @Dan203 who's trying to sideload Apple TV+, I've read that even though it installs, it won't run. But there is a workaround of loading the Firefox browser and running via the web site. Drawback, besides clunky navigation, is it won't do 4k.

    One must have app for Android TV is Mouse Toggle. It allows you to more easily navigate web sites and sideloaded apps that weren't designed for TVs. Another is some sort of side load launcher for side loaded apps that don't appear on the main app screen.

    It's a shame there are so many mainstream apps that aren't in the Play store yet and we have to resort to all this hacking.
     
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    Dan203

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    One issue with Mouse Toggle... it requires you to double tap play/pause to enable and the TiVo remote doesn't have play/pause. (stupid omission on an otherwise great remote)
     
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    philco782

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    I use one of these with my FireTV stick, once paired up a mouse cursor actually appears.

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BALK9CM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    I also sideloaded a settings apk from some random android installation but I'm not 100% sure it was needed to make the mouse cursor work. I think just having a pointing device linked via bluetooth makes a cursor appear.

    I know it's not a Tivo stick but I'm just recommending a device that works well for me on another device, which IMHO for all intents and purposes, I think the two might be somewhat similar in being considered "yet another android stick".
     
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    Can someone try out the Spectrum TV app to see if it works by any chance? On Fire TV it fails with a message about requiring Google Play Services
     
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    Doesn’t work. Once you get past the intro screen it just crashes every time
     
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    Thats the thing (and appreciate you saying you don't have the device yourself), On the android homescreen on this device, the gear icon is in the upper right and is "general settings" it says.

    When you go to security and restrictions, it has that exact section about unknown sources, but there is *no* toggle button on/off.

    See my pic. Thats where I'm lost. Imgur

    It mentions "no apps can perform this action" implying its OFF globally (no sideloading / no untrusted sources) but it gives no indication on how to enable it.

    And I also have an AT&T TV Osprey box, so I'm familiar with what I *should* be looking for, but the toggle isn't here on the tivo stick.
     
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    More recent versions of Android ask for this permission per-app, so malicious apps can't abuse the system setting if enabled.
    Have you tried opening an APK from a file explorer app like 'FX' to see if it works? All of my recent devices will ask permission for the app, kind of like storage, location, camera, etc
     
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    I'd love to but there are no file explorer apps (that I know of, I'll be honest) in the current Android TV market whitelisted to show on the tivo stick.

    Is there one? I looked for ES File explorer for example, but its not there.
     
  15. cybergrimes

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    ES File Explorer isn't available on any Android TV devices afaik. Look for "FX File Explorer", I have that on my Shield and Jetstream boxes.
    Sorry I am just shooting in the dark a bit here, mine isn't being delivered until tomorrow ;)
     
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    You rock, FX File Explorer is there, but the 'free' version says no networking! argh.... chicken before the egg stuff here w/o paying, if I cant use it to install from a network location, maybe I can somehow attach a usb stick to the usb-c input with my apk already sitting on there? ...
     
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    Ah sorry I've had the license for a long time. "FX Connect" feature is just too handy.
    Try "X-plore File Manager" by Lonely Cat Games instead. I think that should do it.
     
  18. Dan203

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    This is what I used. I linked it to my Google Drive and passed apks from my tablet to the TiVo that way. Only thing it didn’t work for was a couple of the apps I downloaded were zip files, which are apparently split bundles. There is a special app called SAI you need to install those. It's UI is remote friendly so that's nice, but you have to side load it.

    Only thing I couldn’t get working was the orientation. Some side loaded apps are sideways. There are apps that claim to fix this but the ones I tried didn’t work.
     
  19. blacknoi

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    that’s the one. I successfully side loaded att tv. Woot.
     
  20. stuart628

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    Mind shooting me some instructions or help please:)


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