That particular picture was taken from my DLP Projector, but I could have taken the same picture from any of my TV's and it would have looked about the same. My point was the Tivo does a horrible job of converting 1080i/60 to 1080p/30, it's not the TV doing it. It also never made that conversion before Hydra. Before Hydra if you had any 1080P settings enabled it would convert 1080i/60 to 1080p/60 not 1080p/30. And because of this bug you cannot get native output in all situations without toggling the 1080p/24 passthrough checkbox on or off depending on what you are watching. Also its not true that all TV's display the same field rate depending on what is input. My DLP projector actually changes the speed of the colorwheel and dlp chip depending on if its receiving 24, 25,30 or 60 fps. You can actually hear it spinning up or down when switching and the color goes funny for a second or so until it completely syncs the speed. My Plasma can also display 24p at 48hz while other plasmas can use 72hz for 24p content. At the end of the day I just want to see the picture get to the TV with as little alteration as possible without having to go into the settings and change them every time and that just doesn't seem to be happening right now. I think we've also got enough people that have replied now that also see the overall softness the Tivo is producing even when its working normally and not making that conversion to admit that's also an issue.