Can they disable all TiVos one day?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by dougtv, Oct 14, 2020.

  1. Dec 6, 2020 #41 of 100
    slowbiscuit

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    No, it doesn't. Not when watching shows, which is what you do 99% of the time. The Tivo viewing experience is far better than any streamer.
     
  2. Dec 6, 2020 #42 of 100
    trip1eX

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    Maybe. Depends on your needs and what you want. It's not the DVR that saves you money though. IT's getting by only on a wireless plan for data instead of broadband plus wireless.

    I mean technically not having a dvr saves you even more money.
     
  3. Dec 6, 2020 #43 of 100
    trip1eX

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    Your lack of concern doesn't change that these are extra steps you have to do on Tivo that you don't have to do on Netflix.
     
  4. Dec 6, 2020 #44 of 100
    MScottC

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    I wholly disagree. LOCAL storage provides a far better experience on a whole host of levels. Fast forward and rewind are so much more responsive, forwarding through commercials, which you can't do on many streaming services, is a big plus. Being able to archive the show and not have it disappear is positive that so many people take advantage of.

    I've yet to suffer the bane of pre-roll ads. To partially quote some infamous NRA member, "you will have to pry my TiVo from my cold dead hands."

    All said, there is room for both, of course that implies your wallet has cash to spare for both.

    The reality is, this is all a ploy to take money from the 98% and transfer it to the 2% more efficiently.
     
  5. Dec 6, 2020 #45 of 100
    trip1eX

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    Nah. The reality Netflix is way more convenient and the equipment needed to run it is far cheaper than a $1000 cable Tivo with lifetime. IT's a relic of the past at this point. Just not officially.
     
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  6. Dec 6, 2020 #46 of 100
    Charles R

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    Actually Netflix is useless for the content I watch via TiVo since virtually none of it is available. And after a year or so Netflix would be more expensive than my TiVo.
     
  7. Dec 6, 2020 #47 of 100
    trip1eX

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    IT's a metaphor. And sorry but drinking water is cheaper than your Tivo.
     
  8. Dec 6, 2020 #48 of 100
    ManeJon

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    To me the problem with streaming services is figuring out which one the show I want is on and then finding it. Yes I do use streaming but my main TV experience is TIVO . I set up series recordings - watch when I want and I also delete when done - I don't think I've ever used more than 20% of my dvr capacity. Just easier.
    I wonder if TIVO/Cable service was less costly and cost the same as several streaming services would people be heading to streaming or stay with standard cable service.
     
  9. Dec 6, 2020 #49 of 100
    krkaufman

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    One nice thing about ReplayTV, though, is that you could still run one, today, even with the company and its guide service long since shuttered. (Well, you could as of a year and a half ago when I disconnected my last ReplayTV when a room was being painted, and have yet to restore its operation. Hmmm.... maybe a Xmas project.)

    I'm doubtful anything similar will be possible w/ our TiVos in a similar situation, so fingers crossed the service continues as long as I need it.
     
  10. Dec 6, 2020 #50 of 100
    MScottC

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    For you maybe... for me, while I subscribe to Netflix, Amazon Prime, and somehow get Peacock and CBS AA and HBO Max for free, most of our casual watching is via TiVo, whether it be the prime time dramas my wife and I watch, or the various news shows, and some other stuff.

    There's no doubt we watch those streaming services, but nope, they're not the end all. Maybe it's a generational thing, maybe just a personal preference. But there's no doubt in my mind, I prefer stuff on local storage.

    Before you harp on quality of the images, I'll grant you HDR UHD does look incredible, and I do appreciate it. And while there's no way my TiVo given the current tech, will deal with it, for most of my viewing, TiVo remains the first place I go.
     
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  11. Dec 6, 2020 #51 of 100
    TishTash

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    What about replayTV allowed more functionality than a tivo?
     
  12. Dec 6, 2020 #52 of 100
    shwru980r

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    I'm making the assumption that the folks who post on this forum desire to consume large quantities of programing. Some people don't watch TV at all, or just watch a few shows whenever they are on, but I doubt they participate in this forum either.

    Broadband is needed mostly for streaming video. If you can accumulate your video content on a DVR, you can get by with mobile data for retrieving guide data and for light browsing.

    Many people pay ~$100 per month for cable/internet phone.

    I think many people could get by on this 1GB $10/month plan for phone and internet. and use an OTA DVR.

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    Seems like there is an opportunity to save a great deal of money to me by using a DVR.
     
  13. Dec 6, 2020 #53 of 100
    trip1eX

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    yep you're preaching to the choir as far as the idea goes. I pointed out the same thing years ago on this forum.

    But, again, it depends on your situation. And it isn't the dvr that saves you money. IT's having just a wireless plan instead of a broadband plan too.

    You definitely can't get much cheaper than OTA only with a Tivo and a 1 gb $10/mo wireless plan unless you go without a phone and tv in your home.

    I don't think such a barebones plan would work for the vast majority here although I wouldn't doubt if there are a few with such a setup. And if you're going that cheap why even have the Tivo? TAke out the Tivo and you probably reduce your monthly cost by 50%. :)


    I'm thinking a little more realistically or more of an average case though, where someone could just have an unlimited wireless plan for $60/mo and then have cable tv and a dvr setup. And not have to get broadband. And I have no doubt that could work for lots of people. Particularly households with 1-2 people who don't game or do big downloads and are fine just cutting down on or eliminating streaming.

    The ironic thing perhaps is cable companies are not interested in pushing this idea because they make more money on broadband.
     
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  14. Dec 6, 2020 #54 of 100
    trip1eX

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    No it is inherently true that streaming on a service like Netflix is more convenient than using a dvr and the equipment needed to run a streaming service like Netflix is dramatically cheaper than a lifetime cable Tivo as well.

    Your current needs for content doesn't change this set of facts. Your personal preference doesn't change this.

    I do think it is largely a generational thing as old habits die hard. But irregardless of habits, the facts remain regarding the economics and convenience of streaming vs the dvr. Really if you think about it a service like Netflix is a no maintenance Tivo as well as the cabletv service itself sorta speak.

    AT the same time regarding the generational thing, I grew up with 3 channels on an antenna and no vcr even until i was 12 or so. So in that respect you might think some of you people even older than I am would have no problem giving up local storage for on-demand streaming since there wasn't even a way to time shift back in the day. ;)

    YOu can't archive a recording on streaming services though. So the cult of archivers on here still can cling to that to demonstrate Tivo's superiority. ...although technically I can point my phone at Netflix and record a show. and actually the quality would probably be better than anything archived on Tivo from back in the Series 2 days. ;)
     
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  15. Dec 6, 2020 #55 of 100
    wizwor

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    Ease is not something that can be quantified...easily. What you want to say is, "This is easier for me." We get it. You are mad at TiVo. Get a new service and leave the rest of us alone, please.
     
  16. Dec 6, 2020 #56 of 100
    MScottC

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    Again, your personal preference. And you're entitled to it... but don't be an ******* and claim your preference suits everybody. I asked my wife, totally out of the blue, "One or the other, TiVo or streaming?" She agrees with me, TiVo. It's good to have choices. Don't assume mine is the same as yours. And I am older than you... VCRs weren't a thing till I was heading to college and even though I owned one from 1983 or so on, I never really enjoyed using it, found it a major PITA. But I purchased a TiVo in 1999 for $500, purchased a lifetime license, and I'm still using that lifetime license on my third TiVo (a Roamio+) along with one mini in my back office.
     
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  17. Dec 6, 2020 #57 of 100
    wizwor

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    The word that is missing from your vocabulary is value. Someplace between everything and nothing is just right. The only one who cares what is just right for you is you. You seem to think what you think is just right is just right for everyone.
     
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  18. Dec 6, 2020 #58 of 100
    trip1eX

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    No. YOU're being sillly.

    Ease, in this case, is something that can easily be quantified. And has been. When all you have to do to time shift tv is find the show and hit play and nothing else then you have something even easier than a Tivo.

    And why would I be mad at tivo? We had a great time for 15 years. She didn't leave me. I left her. If anything she's mad at me. I'm with my new younger babe and she's jealous.

    Best for you to not participate in discussions like this if it bothers you so.
     
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  19. Dec 6, 2020 #59 of 100
    MScottC

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    Or you could tone down your arrogance. If you had this attitude with just me, I wouldn't say anything. But it seems you're this way with others as well.
     
  20. Dec 6, 2020 #60 of 100
    trip1eX

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    No. Not my personal preference. Facts!!!

    And I didn't say the easiest less costly solution is best for everyone. Quit putting my words in my mouth.

    YOu can round up 10k people that like Tivo better than streaming. It doesn't change the facts.
     

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