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Can a Slingbox 500 replace both a Tivo Stream and Tivo Mini Vox?

Discussion in 'TiVo Stream' started by nuraman00, Sep 5, 2018.

  1. nuraman00

    nuraman00 Member

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    You are right! It says it's up now.

    Between the two calls I had to Tivo yesterday, spanning 68 minutes, I wish one of them had explained that to me. I kept pointing out that I wasn't sure if the MoCA connection was really successful, because the MoCA link status kept saying it was down. They never addressed my concern, and just had me go to other parts of the network settings, to see if I had set up the MoCA correctly.

    I did also tell them that when the Mini tried to connect, it was able to get the program info. But I said it still seemed weird that it said the link status was down.

    (I might have stopped checking the link status after the first call, but before I tried turning on the Mini).
     
  2. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    The quality of the MoCA connection can be checked via the Network Status screen on the MoCA-connected Mini.
     
  3. mdavej

    mdavej Well-Known Member

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    I see what you're saying. No need for pics. I can't think of a better way in that case.
     
  4. nuraman00

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    I was going to post a pic anyways, when I had time, because I wanted input on something. I'll probably create a new thread for that.
     
  5. nuraman00

    nuraman00 Member

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    How do you see the quality? Or what field do you look at?

    Are you talking about the MoCA link status?

    If so, thanks.

    I couldn't use this though when I was trying to set up the Tivo Mini though, because at that time, I was having trouble getting past the Getting Connection Info screen. It just kept looping back to the Guided Setup, or it would say the Tivo wasn't activated yet.
     
  6. krkaufman

    krkaufman TDL shepherd

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    See >this post<.

    Document # of nodes, channel, TX/RX PHY rates and power estimates.
     
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  7. Series3Sub

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    No, it does not cast from the phone. It instructs your Roku to make it direct connection to the Slingbox via the internet connection with the Roku, something like using a URL to connect-- your phone does not cast the video. However your phone does become the remote control for the Slingbox on Roku. the video you see through your Roku is the Roku connecting to the Slingbox using the Roku internet connection, not your phone.
     
  8. Series3Sub

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    Yes there are options to skip ahead and Skip back and pause all trick play including fast forward rewind there should be everything you can do from your TiVo remote you can also do with Slingbox on mobile device. if you watch the sling on a PC then you are presented with an image that is exactly like the TiVo remote and then you press those buttons on the virtual remote. using a Remote device just take a little bit of getting used to as far as the menus and where the commands are located once you get the hang of it it's not difficult. keep in mind that takes a little bit of time for the command to go through the internet to the Slingbox your DVR or mini responding and then the result being sent back through the internet. I would say the Slingbox does not really allow for robust channel surfing, however most people don't use it for that they use it to either watch live programming at length or playback and recording at length, but I don't do channel surfing even at home.

    Correct, if I were to use a TV in another room a lot and want full easy functionality then I would get a mini. However, I do use the Slingbox in rooms right don't watch TV very often and I just want to watch Idol live TV or play back of a recording without channel surfing for that it's a great option to paying a lot more for an extra Mini.
     
  9. Series3Sub

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    it's very it's very easy Once you know where those buttons are. I believe on the mobile devices when you touch the screen at the bottom are the commands to skip forward skip backward play pause record it's easily accessible and should be easy to do. keeping in mind the time it takes to send the command through the internet and for the result of that command to be seen by you on the other end if I wanted to skip back 10 seconds I often press the skip back button twice then I'm where I should be taking in consideration the time for the command to travel.
     
  10. Series3Sub

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    yes that's the whole point of the Slingbox experience. using the PC or the mobile remote what you do is the very same thing you would do if you were in front of the TiVo press the fast-forward button then press the skip forward button that's using the so-called TiVo hash marks.

    the Slingbox allows you to control your TiVo just as if you were sitting in front the Slingbox allows you to control your TiVo just as if you were sitting in front of that TiVo at home it can do all the same things that you can also do at home. so the Slingbox experience is you're sitting at a remote location and you use that very same command see what if you were at home controlling the TiVo with a very same command and what you see on screen is what's coming out of the TiVo so yes you can do all the same things with your TiVo it shuts us if you're at home.

    what are you what are you doing with a Slingbox solo? did you already own that particular Slingbox? I thought it made it clear my post to avoid those old Legacy Slingboxes because they are somewhat deprecated at this point the only slingboxes that won't be giving you any problems or limitations are the Slingbox 500 or the M2. any of the older boxes and you will likely encounter some problems or limitations at some point possibly being in able to play it using the Slingbox player for PC or Mac.
     
  11. Series3Sub

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    Unless you can prove it I never said to use the second output from the splitter from the TV what I did say perhaps in another thread is that you use the output of the Slingbox to then connect to the television you're going to need to do this because for the Slingbox 500 it has a simple on-screen setup process and if you don't have the output of the Slingbox connected to the television you won't see it, further this does not at all interfere with anything you always want to go from out of the Slingbox to the television. Just leave the second output from the splitter unconnected. The point was to circumvent the hdcp, not to provide two outputs from the splitter so just leave that one out the from the splitter I'm connected to anything.
     
  12. Series3Sub

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    well I don't know well I don't know what that line is you're talking about. Did you get your Slingbox 500 new or used and from a reputable source. I don't know if I mentioned it in this thread of May been in another but keep in mind that the HDMI connection at first can be a little quirky but it took me all of 30 seconds to work out the quirkiness. act right I fooled around with it a bit I have perfect picture come through HDMI and perfect component pictures at both of my sling boxes each connected to two different sources with excellent results.
     
  13. Series3Sub

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    Actually the playback of the Slingbox video uses a separate Slingbox player for PC or Mac therefore it is not dependent upon the browser for viewing which was the case in earlier versions. the internet is moving away from add-ons especially from media, so Slingbox dumped the add ons through browsers to view Slingbox video and instead requires the use of the Slingbox player to view your Slingbox content. however in regards to a PC or Mac yes you'll have to use a browser to essentially sign in or initiate the process that will then wake up the Slingbox and automatically load on top of the browser the Slingbox player.

    it's hard for me to it's hard for me to troubleshoot the problems you're having because I can't see it in and I'm not there myself, but be careful, especially in Firefox that you don't have any thing like you direct origin or other add-ons that it is designed to keep out third parties because that may prevent the sign on or the initiation to begin the connection.

    some time ago for me I found some time ago for me I found that Firefox most likely due to my extensions, but not properly sign me in so I switched the Chrome and Chrome it always sign me in with no problems because the security extensions on Chrome seem to allow proper sign on and initiation. however with recent updates I'm able to sign into sling box using either Firefox or Chrome and they will properly initiate and launch the sling player on my PC.
     
  14. Series3Sub

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    Did you check when you purchase the HDMI splitter from reviews that this split it does indeed work for chicken bedding hdcp using a Slingbox. that's what I did and got those specific Splitters and they both work well.
     
  15. Series3Sub

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    keep in mind that at first the Slingbox is going to sling keep in mind that at first the Slingbox is going to sling the video using minimum amounts of speed and bandwidth, however over several minutes if you have a fast enough connection it will look better and better and better and could look at top-level HD about eight megabits per second after some minutes.

    Also on the PC and the mobile devices and the Fire TV and Roku you still have the option to manually select the quality of the video. the Slingbox uses the AUTO setting as default for video quality meaning in a figure out the best picture quality dependent upon your internet speed. however if you know you have fast internet plenty of bandwidth and speed you can manually select the video quality to be best or HD right away and then the Slingbox will quickly increase the picture quality as per your selection.

    as I said before as I said before in the auto picture quality setting at first the video being stream might not look great but if you allow it several minutes for it to slowly increase the quality of picture relative to how much internet speed you have it'll start to look very good. the Slingbox in the auto setting is designed to start out somewhat minimally with picture quality and then slowly increase it so it won't overwhelm your bandwidth and then failed to send video, but again if you know you've got really fast Upstream from where the sling boxes and really fast Downstream from where you watching it then you can immediately manually select the best or HD highest video quality setting and the Slingbox will do so. one quirk is that if I select the HD picture quality setting which I believe is the highest, it will display on my Fire TV connection that my bandwidth is a big enough for that, but it is so I just killed a message and choose to select the option forward Slingbox not to send me that connection anymore because it works perfectly fine for me at the highest picture quality level.
     
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  16. Series3Sub

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    I respectfully disagree, my experience is that Slingbox looks absolutely great given one has fast enough Upstream speed and enough Downstream speed. and it looks even better on a 4K TV. you may have a different experience, but the general statement that it doesn't look great and it never will is simply not true. my experience with Slingbox for quite a long time has been very high expectations because it does meet that given that set up properly and is enough speed provided were talking about the Slingbox 500 or the M1 M2 because I can't speak to the experience with those old Legacy Slingbox is that Slingbox frankly is simply not supporting anymore.
     
  17. Series3Sub

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    well well Opie, it sounds like you have your Slingbox properly so I'll sign off from here. I hope the mocha TiVo and Slingbox and everything comes together for you best of luck
     
  18. mdavej

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    Point taken. In my own experience, I've never seen it quite equal the source even on my own LAN with plenty of bandwidth. There is always a tiny bit of tearing on pans and scene changes. I've never watched a baseball game on it, but I assume the tearing I see on scene changes would be similar with a ball whizzing across the screen in a quarter of a second. So the best I've seen is very good, but not great. Good to hear that perfection is possible at least with the optimal setup.

    It could be the device I'm slinging to that's holding me back, which is the embedded web client in Chrome on a very old Win 7 laptop most of the time. What do you typically watch on?
     

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