Can a Lifetime TIVO Subscription be Added After the 1st Year?

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  1. Dec 4, 2015 #1 of 25
    JTHOJNICKI

    JTHOJNICKI Member

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    I'm new to the world of TIVO, so I am planning to buy 1 or 2 Bolts to jump in. Can I defer purchasing the lifetime TIVO subscription until my free first-year subscription is almost up? I want to be absolutely sure that the Bolt(s) meet my needs before spending $600.

    Thanks again!
     
  2. Dec 4, 2015 #2 of 25
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay TCF Club

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    You can mostly tell this on your Tivo.com account, and may be able to set plans for future subscriptions.
     
  3. Dec 5, 2015 #3 of 25
    sluciani

    sluciani TiVowner Since '99

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    You'll likely love your Bolt. The question I'm asking myself is if I'll keep it for 5 years, which is the break-even on the new lifetime pricing. Knowing myself, I'll probably want to upgrade if/when a next generation box appears, 3-4 years from now. YMMV.
     
  4. Dec 5, 2015 #4 of 25
    aaronwt

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    I know I won't which is why I won't be getting ALL IN. Although if it were priced at $400 I might consider it. But at $600, the break even point is too far down the road.
     
  5. Dec 5, 2015 #5 of 25
    lessd

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    The question is how much of the All-In price can you recover when you upgrade, if you just rent the TiVo it would have almost no value. IE pay $600 for all in, keep the unit for three years, as the first year is free you now have $300 in rent equivalent, so your break even is now $300 net, if you can sell the Bolt (with All-in)for say $550 you will be making money. I just sold a 3 year old Roamio + for over $670 on E-Bay. I would assume the resale price of TiVos with All-in will now go up on E-Bay.
     
  6. Dec 5, 2015 #6 of 25
    sluciani

    sluciani TiVowner Since '99

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    Didn't realize they kept their value like that. If so, your point is well-taken.
     
  7. Dec 6, 2015 #7 of 25
    unitron

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    They keep their value if and only if they're lifetimed.
     
  8. Dec 6, 2015 #8 of 25
    Kremlar

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    Who knows what the state of cable card will be in 5 years. Personally, I wouldn't bet on it. Current TiVos may be doorstops.
     
  9. Dec 6, 2015 #9 of 25
    gespears

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    I'm glad I went lifetime on my Premiers because I sold three of them and made enough for a lifetime Roamio Pro with almost enough for the 6TB hard drive upgrade. And that included a 3 year warranty.
     
  10. aaronwt

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    Hopefully the Roamio Pro still has a high value. I still plan on selling my Lifetime Roamio Pro with a 5TB drive soon. After I get a replacement Bolt setup. Although at this point the only reason I'm still planning on getting another replacement Bolt is because I already have the second 4TB. Otherwise with Skip mode supposedly coming I could just use one of my Roamio Basics instead of another Bolt.
     
  11. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    This is the biggest issue. CableCARD is in flux right now and likely to replaced by something else in the next 5 years. You might still be able to get a CableCARD or maybe TiVo will be able to adapt the Bolt to the new standard, but I wouldn't bank on it.
     
  12. lessd

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    IMHO when the end of cable cards is announced there will be at least 5 years or more when cable card will still be useable, if streaming get too popular the cable co.s will want to put their money in streaming and not care about replacing the cable card, they will just let their cable delivery run out without investing money in any new cable technology. All this is a guess on my part.
     
  13. Dan203

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    That may be true, but it would sill effect the resale value.
     
  14. mad.gunsmith

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    what upgrades did you do to get that kind of money?
     
  15. sluciani

    sluciani TiVowner Since '99

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    No upgrades needed, it looks like, since lifetime is now $600. If you add that to a new Plus MSRP of $400, $670 looks like a reasonable price to pay for a unit in good working condition.
     
  16. lessd

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    Stock unit, but I had all the original unused accessories and retail box with original packing. I also had to pay shipping, PayPal, and E-Bay costs.
     
  17. NashGuy

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    Can anyone answer this guy's original question? I'm curious as well. I was under the impression that All-In (lifetime) service must be purchased at the same time that a Bolt is directly purchased from TiVo, or at least when it is activated. Is that TiVo's current policy? (Although regardless of what TiVo says now, I imagine that come late 2016 when the first Bolts sold roll off their first year of included service, TiVo will probably sell All-In for them if you call and threaten to cancel service if you can't get it.)
     
  18. sluciani

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    Looks like you must opt for "all-in" at the time of activation. From the TiVo web site: https://www.tivo.com/buytivo/popups/popup_servicePlans.html
     
  19. ilovedvrs

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    that can't be right!!

    are you saying I can't buy lifetime after 1 year of free?

    I'm going to smash my bolt with a baseball bat if that is true.
     
  20. Dan203

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    I doubt that's true. I'm sure TiVo will be willing to sell you $600 all-in at any time if you just call and ask. What incentive would they have to refuse?
     

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