Cablevisions War on TIVO/Cablecards

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by jefny, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. Mar 17, 2008 #21 of 131
    debtoine

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    Central NJ here and we got the postcard today.

    We don't really watch these channels, so it's no great loss. However, if they start adding other channels that we do watch, we'll have to add our voices to the chorus.

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  3. Mar 17, 2008 #23 of 131
    blacknoi

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    Grr, I posted this first but go no love :(

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?t=387595


    But hey at least they are telling me that I can have one of their STBs for a year for free.

    Too bad that does ZERO for my Tivo investment, plus the cablecard rentals, plus the 48 dollar MANDATORY truck roll to even get them installed.

    Thanks Cablevision.

    I really enjoy the voom channels too. One of my impulse channels to watch goes immediately to 777 MonstersHD. I'll miss the channel :( as my Tivo's aren't going anywhere.
     
  4. Mar 17, 2008 #24 of 131
    VinceA

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    My post card showed up today. I hope the tuning resolver isn't too far down the road because right now it's not a problem but it will probably become one sooner or later. The VOOM channels were the perfect choice to be SDV'd however since I think their usage is probably pretty low.
     
  5. Mar 17, 2008 #25 of 131
    JacksTiVo

    JacksTiVo TiVo User since 2001

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    I received the Cablevision postcard today and filed an email and FCC Web site complaint with the FCC. Since TiVo and the cable industry have agreed to a solution to the one way CableCard issue, my complaint is that until that solution is available to owners of TiVO S3 or HD units, Cablevision is discriminating against its consumers that elected to use CableCards.
     
  6. Mar 17, 2008 #26 of 131
    UncleMonty

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    To anyone who thinks that just because they aren't effected...

    If you have any interest in preserving your rights as a consumer, it would be best to be very vocal about this. Just because something doesn't effect your "favorite" channels, don't think they'll stop there. This is punishment for TiVo users, period. If they don't hear your voice raised against it, they'll just count you as a customer that supports their decision.
     
  7. Mar 17, 2008 #27 of 131
    wjohna

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    In addition to the $2 per CableCard Cablevision is charging me, they are also charging $1.50/month for Premiums on additional sets, even though the extra sets they are referring to are a 2nd CableCard in my Tivo HD.

    Is anyone else charged this, or is it an error on Cablevision's part?
     
  8. Mar 17, 2008 #28 of 131
    dubluv

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    i got the postcard today, and am fuming. i had a chance to get fios with a free hdtv, but declined. had i known about this then, i might have taken advantage of verizon's offer. i only currently enjoy equatorHD, but as others have said, just because these voom channels are not your favorites, its only a matter of time before they use sdv on more channels. and why would we want to turn in one cablecard to get a stb? the box won't work with the tivohd or series 3, so in effect, they're taking away the ability to use our tivo's for what we bought it for.
     
  9. Mar 17, 2008 #29 of 131
    Dunnie

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    I too got my notice in the mail today. I am sick of this company strong handing its customers. They own what could be construed as an illegal Monopoly on media in this area. We have no other option for TV service. If VIOS was available here, they would be at my door tomorrow. I cant stand Cablevision ... this is the very same company that refuses to carry the NFL network because the NFL will not bow to their financial demands.

    I saw no mention of a reduced cost to me for NOT allowing me to watch channels I currently am able to use. That at least would show that they have the customer in mind.

    I sure am praying for Verizon to carry TV in my area.

    c ya

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  10. Mar 17, 2008 #30 of 131
    JacksTiVo

    JacksTiVo TiVo User since 2001

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    I pay the same monthly fees to Cablevision, $2.00 per CableCard and an extra $1.50 for the second HD tuner. FIOS is available in my area but it is almost impossible to understand their charges since they have at least three options just for Internet connections. I want to be able to give them a copy of my Cablevision bill and have them give me a price for the same type service.
     
  11. Mar 17, 2008 #31 of 131
    lqaddict

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    Just got off the phone with the CV HD department - my area, Brooklyn NY, is not affected by the SDV switch :) I will continue receiving the channels I am currenntly receiving. I am not sure if CV plans to add more HD channels, and if these will be introduced as SDV.
     
  12. Mar 18, 2008 #32 of 131
    acvthree

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    It looks like triple-play for $109 with the 20/5 internet which is pretty much good for most users. Cable cards are an additional $3.99 each.

    http://promo.consumerfiber.com/FiOS-Bundle

    Of course, that doesn't include all the state and local taxes which can be pretty high. That's hard to get out of any of them.

    Al
     
  13. Mar 18, 2008 #33 of 131
    ADG

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    I'm in Central NJ and got the post card yesterday. Unless I'm reading it wrong, they are not offering a DVR free for a year, but a cable box - and to get it you need to trade in a cable card. Candidly, the loss of these particular HD channels doesn't bother me - I'm much more concerned about future channels and S3 compatibility. Keeping my fingers crossed the (hopefully) soon to be available dongle from Tivo will "solve" the problem.
     
  14. Mar 18, 2008 #34 of 131
    urwathrtz

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    Yeah, I get the Music Choice Channels too. Of all 15 Voom channels I usually only watch Gameplay. Still this sucks. I'm gonna to file a complaint.

    On a side note I was in Best Buy in Poughkeepsie last night killing some time and I saw a brand new, still sealed in the box Series 3 sitting on the shelf. No price tag but I thought it was pretty cool to see it.
     
  15. Mar 18, 2008 #35 of 131
    twassel

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    When I got this card, I called Cablevision, and a tech told me that my TiVo would not be affected. However, considering the usual level of competence of CV's techs, I'll wait and see. No problems as yet.

    {EDIT}

    Further inquiry from Cablevision confirms the first tech was an idiot. I'm about to lose 15 of my 43 HD channels. Angry.
     
  16. Mar 18, 2008 #36 of 131
    BladeZ

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    I am with you on this one. I honestly don't mind losing these particular channels if I am compensated accordingly. And a free STB for a year is NOT compensation. CV touts that their HD is "free" compared to Fios. Well the channels still have a value, and I feel I should at least get a $10 credit per month moving forward until such a time when there is a solution from either Tivo, CableLabs, or Cablevision.

    Fios is not an option for me as I watch MSG HD (there are more reasons, but dont want to make this a fios bashing thread)
     
  17. Mar 18, 2008 #37 of 131
    KJW

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    Any idea when TIVO will be coming out with their SDV adapter or how much it will cost?

    Also, any idea if this will result in better HD quality if there are not as many signals being sent?
     
  18. Mar 18, 2008 #38 of 131
    blacknoi

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    Two great questions. And I don't think there's answers for EITHER unfortunately.

    I'd love it if they'd stop bitshaving some of the HD channels as much, as watching some things results in SEVERE macroblocking...showing just how much some of the HD channels are compressed!

    I would love it if they could max out the bitrate on HD channels as a result of this.

    C'mon, don't give us all lemons cablevision. We would love some lemonade sprinkled in here somewhere.
     
  19. Mar 18, 2008 #39 of 131
    dbenrosen

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    The adapter is NOT coming from TiVo. It will come from the cable company.
     
  20. Mar 18, 2008 #40 of 131
    Fran1r

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    I got my card from Cablevision yesterday, and while we really only watch one of these channels, the whole thing really bothers me. I'm in one of the few towns with two other options, another smaller cable outfit or Verizon, but I'd hate to switch because I now have all three services from Cablevision (simplification plus a discount) and I had cablecards installed in my two Series 3's within the last 6 months, so I've got almost $100 invested in installation charges.

    I'd like to send a letter or email complaining about this, but I don't really fully understand the issue in a way that would make my complaint sound intelligent. Could someone please put up some points that I could incorporate into a coherent communication or possibly post up what they actually sent?

    Thanks.
     

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