Cablevision wins network DVR court case

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by jmoak, Mar 23, 2007.

  1. lew

    lew Well-Known Member

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    I have Verizon. Some VoD programs have forward, reverse, skip disabled "at the request of the content provider". You can exit and come back to where you stopped but that's it. NBC shows generally are affected. I don't remember which others. It's an issue if a sports event went over and I want to use VoD to watch the last 5 minutes.
     
  2. MichaelK

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    what would be any different for what any dvr owner has to do today to schedule sports- we already have to pad stuff.

    All this is will be for them to run the dvr software on like a virtual machine at the headend instead of on the box. The whole way they got the courts to permit them to do it is that they will NOT record verything and cable is not permitted to schedule anything. The end user still has to set recordings exactly like they do today on hardware that happens to be at the headend.
     
  3. MichaelK

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    the ruling doesn't permit 10,000 customers to access ONE copy. The whole argument that cablevision made was that each user would get their own "tuners" and their own defined storage space and the user would manage their own stuff.
     
  4. MichaelK

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    I dont think it can change anyone's short term plans. They have to invest in some serious VOD/SDV infrastructure in order to make sure they had enough open carriers so that every 'virtual dvr' in use on any particular node could be fed it's own stream. Basically every DVR will need their own private streaming line from the dvr at the headend. You can't just jump into that feet first.

    That said- I believe cablevision actually has SDV on their entire system for some time to use for foreign language. I also think I just read that they have the highest digital cable rate in the nation at well over 90%. So they could rather quickly start moving channels to SDV to clear out room. They likely are the best situated to take advantage of such a system.

    edit: this http://www.lightreading.com/document.asp?doc_id=178408&site=cdn&print=yes says they are 92% digital
     
  5. MichaelK

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    I dont think that the vast majoriity of people really care all that much about their tv programs honestly. But that's just my 2 cents.
     
  6. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    yeah - I can get TV programs again from other sources. Pictures of Aunt DiDi falling backwards into the pool - priceless
     
  7. daveak

    daveak Series 3 Novice

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    Very True. As long as the people get the shows they want when they want, they will be happy. And I know there is a migration to online storage, purely online games, so many shows. My NetFlix que is like my private online library (though Blu-ray cannot be replaced and NetFlix cannot get close - at least for now).

    I would think the only real obstacles would be possible bandwith issues, if everyone is trying to watch something in HD at one time - as each person has their own copy of the program they are watching. I do not see storage as a real issue, but would think there would be limits imposed by the providers - and charges for a higher storage limit. Providers that cap bandwith and add charges for exceeding the limit, would certainly be proponents of doing this with your stored programs.

    And would you have the option of recording your stored program on your own media device? Like your phone or your own media storage device?

    Though most would not likely care, I do not want to lose the flexibility of doing what I want with recorded media.
     
  8. daveak

    daveak Series 3 Novice

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    You have an aunt DiDi too? :cool:

    (Actually my wife does...)
     
  9. samo

    samo New Member

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    Perhaps some people would even prefer centralized storage. You don't have to worry about hard drive failure wiping out all of you recordings.
     
  10. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    well you do but to a far less extent since you assume the broadcast company does some enterprise fortifying to ensure the data.
     
  11. DAccardi

    DAccardi Tivo Special Member

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    Misleading title, it says Cablevision won a case but you immediately post the article that says they lost? huh?
     
  12. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Well-Known Member

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    You may want to read the actual thread. The original post was in 2007 and later posts have since updated with new information since their have been new court decisions along with messages talking about changing the thread title as a result.
     
  13. stevel

    stevel Dumb Blond TCF Club

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    Right - I asked a moderator to change the title. I agree that those who just now start reading may be confused.
     

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