Buying an S3 on Ebay. Question before I purchase about Lifetime Tfx.

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by peejaygee, Jan 27, 2012.

  1. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Rochester NY
    There is no one answer to that question, it is likely different for each person and even when someone does decide what the answer is for themselves it maybe years or impossible for them to know if they made the correct one.

    Unfortunately in peejaygee he may have gotten ripped off, which is very hard to factor in when deciding how much to pay for a used product. Even if he didn't get ripped off how does one factor in that a used Series 3 could die with in days and not be repairable? On the other side of the coin a used Series 3 could last for years with no issues.

    So no one has enough data to be certain they are making the "correct" decision, which is why there is no "correct" or "wrong" answer to your question.

    If you look at cars I can tell you I have a car that is 5.5 years old with 45000 miles on it, it currently is worth about 1/3 of what I would pay for a new one (same model and options - yes I have been looking :) ). I am certain my car has more than 50% of its useful life remaining. If I assume a Series 3 has about the same amount of useful life remaining as my car then maybe it should be selling for about a third of a new model given that a new Premiere with lifetime is $600 for anyone then I would put the value of a Series 3 with lifetime at around $200. But again that is just me.
  2. peejaygee

    peejaygee New Member

    Jan 27, 2012
    Ok, so finally an update and now I'm after some advice,

    So, via Paypal, the went in my favor and I'm awaiting the full refund, but I still have the Tivo box and no contact (not even to ask for it back) from the seller..

    So according to Tivo, the address that was written on the box (when shipped to me) doesn't match the address registered on the Tivo (obviously Tivo wouldn't tell me, they just said it wasn't 'that' name and address).

    So, no contact from seller, money coming back from Paypal, possible wrong address on the box when it was shipped to me (i'm Eastern US, seller was Western US)......

    What I do? ship it back to the address on the box (and obviously losing out on $20 for shipping) or keep it, unused, until the seller makes contact?

    Part of me thinks, well I was nearly shafted with this, so stuff you, but my 'good little man on my shoulder' is saying, send it back?

    Opinions and advice please..
  3. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

    Apr 28, 2006
    semi-coastal NC
    The following assumes that the seller advertised it as having Product Lifetime Service (account status 5).

    Wait and see if you actually get the money.

    Only after receiving a full refund, including the cost to ship to you what was not what they said it was, should you contact the seller and tell them if they want to pay the full cost of shipping that you will be willing to return the TiVo to them.

    I'm thinking perhaps someone managed to fake the lifetime and sold it to them, and they didn't catch it, so it's a case of too bad for them.

    That's if you get a full refund.

    I hope that you do, but I fear that you won't.

    The seller may be an innocent vicim of their own lack of sophistication in this, but I'm not yet convinced, and at any rate you shouldn't be expected to lose a single cent on the deal, and remember, you specifically shopped for a TiVo with lifetime, so don't let anyone try to claim the one without it that was sent to you has any value for you whatsoever.
  4. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

    Jan 31, 2002
    Do what Paypal tells you to do. You certainly should not be out any money for a bad deal. So I wouldn't expect Paypal to want you to ship it back until the seller is contacted. If the seller never contacts you, then what else can you do. You certainly don't want to send something back with money out of your pocket. If Paypal says to send it back and covers the shipping cost then fine.
  5. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

    Apr 28, 2006
    semi-coastal NC
    Unless there's an antique violin involved. :mad:
  6. peejaygee

    peejaygee New Member

    Jan 27, 2012
    Well I basically got.

    And they said...

    So basically, I'm gonna wait until the money hits my account and then try to contact the seller with the remit that the seller will be paying the $20 shipping cost, personally I don't think the seller will respond, but we'll see.
  7. peejaygee

    peejaygee New Member

    Jan 27, 2012
    Well here is an update for anybody who is concerned...

    Got my money back from PayPal, tried to contact the seller, tried again, again, nothing.....

    So I've got a Series3 now with a lifetime, as I put the little bit of extra towards the money I got back from PayPal..

    All turned out well in the end....

    Again, thanks for any tips, pointers and advice you guys gave over the duration.
  8. shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

    Jun 22, 2008
    Contact your bank or credit card company to initiate a charge back for the amount you didn't get back from paypal.
  9. ajwees41

    ajwees41 Well-Known Member

    May 7, 2006
    it sounds like he got the full amount back

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