Buying an S3 on Ebay. Question before I purchase about Lifetime Tfx.

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by peejaygee, Jan 27, 2012.

  1. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

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    Keep an eye on Craigslist as well, that's where I get most of my Tivos.
     
  2. Series3Sub

    Series3Sub Well-Known Member

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    I know what you've stated is supposed to be the policy, but when I added my first TiVo Lifetime from Ebay, my monthly S3 (the only other TiVo on my account) went from $12.95 full rate to the MSD rate of about $9. Later, I was offered the $6.xx rate for that same S3 when I tried to get $99 lifetime for it.

    Did I miss something or misunderstand the policy because I thought it was as you had stated and what I had read in the terms? So, can anyone please explain why TiVo gave me the MSD? There are parts of the TiVo pricing policy and MSD that confuse me.
     
  3. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

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    So in that case the tuning adapter is built into the cable box?

    Are tuning adapters used with anything other than TiVos with cable cards? (I assume a cable card has to be involved and not just a digital tuner?)

    (Yes, I realize we're wandering rather off-topic here)
     
  4. peejaygee

    peejaygee New Member

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    Okaaay, Mr IRS has spoke to me via the bank, now with a clear head and no consumption of beers, I ask this question....

    How much, is too much to pay for a TCD652160 on Ebay, $300, $350? I am ultimately want to get a Wireless Adapter too and I see them for about $30'ish, so with using Ebay, I can set my max, if I lose, I lose, I won't lose sleep over it, just don't want to pay through the nose.

    Nothing suitable on Craigslist at the moment, but then again, I've never used craigslist and I've heard some bad things from craigslist, not the site, just sometimes the sellers.
     
  5. peejaygee

    peejaygee New Member

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    Well, I've done it, $350 it cost me....now to decide it I wanna get the wireless adapter or just hook it up to the phone like like my S1...

    On 2nd thoughts, the Ethernet port will work for me also...lmao!
     
  6. lpwcomp

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    Wired is better.
     
  7. peejaygee

    peejaygee New Member

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    Arrrrghhhhhh..

    Problems, Problems....

    So, I gets my Tivo, hooks it in, says it has a lifetime, so I updates it (as I got a Wifi Dongle with it, which wasn't stated on the sale, so it technically was a bonus), after update, says it's expired..

    Spoke to Tivo and they said the subscription was cancelled Dec 2010.... arrgghhh..

    I also tried to mess on the tivo.com website to try to re-activate it and I punch the numbers in from the screen and on the back (which obv I not going to put here) and I get the message from the tivo website.

    "Oops! You have entered an invalid TiVo service number. TiVo service numbers are 15 digits in length. Be careful! 'B' can look like '8' and 'D' can look like 'zero'. The only valid letters are A through F. Please try again or call Customer Support at 1-877-367-8486."

    Emails the guy who I got it from and he's going to 'crunch some numbers' and get back to me about giving me some money back (partial refund)..as he thought it was valid, I think what has happened he's bought from Ebay (or other place) and never updated it. I can't see him holding on to it for over a year before selling it.

    I'm trying to reset it to the default settings (deleting all the stuff etc) just to see if anything happens/changes, screen says anything up to an hour, but it's been going nearly 3?

    Unless anybody else has any other options or suggestions, either from here or PM me direct.

    We'll see what happens next...
     
  8. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    Demand a full refund plus shipping both ways. File a complaint with ebay and if you used Paypal with them also. Anyone can make a TiVo look like it has lifetime until it actually connects to TiVo's service by simple imaging the hard drive from a TiVo with lifetime. 95% of the value of your purchase was the lifetime service. The seller committed fraud don't let him/her explain it away and screw you.
     
  9. peejaygee

    peejaygee New Member

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    Well that is where I'm stuffed then...the card I used was registered on PayPal, but I couldn't remember the username and password, so I proceeded as a Guest user

    so there is no transaction there, when I try to go to the resolution center I need to sign in.....when I sign in with an old account (UK based) and use the receipt number I got from them it doesn't show the transaction...also the email says..

    as for Ebay.....

    Looks like I'm gonna get an earfull from the wife... :(
     
  10. shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

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    Call Paypal and open a significantly not as described dispute and escalate to a claim as soon as possible. Paypal's terms override the sellers terms. If for some reason Paypal doesn't refund your money, then initiate a charge back with your bank or credit card company.
     
  11. lessd

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    It is easy to make a TiVo look like it has Lifetime, but not by using another disk from another TiVo as the boot will give an error and you will have to do a C&D all to sync the drive.
    I not going to tell you how to do this (fake Lifetime Service) as I don't want to give anybody any easy ideas to fool people.
    Know your seller on E-Bay, look at his feedback and what they have sold, as soon as you get the unit set it up and if Lifetime is on the unit xfer the TiVo into your own TiVo account ASAP. Be ready (have all the information) to dispute your TiVo purchase until the Lifetime TiVo is safely in your own TiVo account.
     
  12. unitron

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    The thing to do is get the TiVo Service Number and check that with TiVo for account status--support, online chat is probably the easiest way, you can copy, paste the info, like whether you're a customer already, that you're thinking of buying that unit and want to confirm account status.

    Then if the seller sends you a unit with a different TSN, you've got them for fraud.
     
  13. lessd

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    How do you prove that the seller sent you a different TiVo, you could have a TiVo with the same model # without Lifetime and say that is the one sent to you, at some point some trust is needed.
     
  14. flashesbuck

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    I can tell you for a fact that the buyer is almost always right when ebay looks at it. I have sold many LEGIT!!! items and then had money taken from my account because the buyer filed a claim. Call eBay and work with them, they will more than likely refund you your money and charge the seller for it.

    Ebay does this because there are WAY more buyers than seller on there and they want to keep buyers happy.
     
  15. lessd

    lessd Well-Known Member

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    Unfortunately what you just said is all to true, E-Bay now has made it hard for sellers against dishonest buyers, I guess E-Bay is trying to find the correct balance between dishonest sellers and dishonest buyers.
     
  16. dsnotgood

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    I feel bad for the guy and hopefully he gets his money back.

    I don't think it makes much sense though buying a used s3 when you can get a brand new premiere for not that much more.

    350 for a almost ten yr old s3 ORRR you can get a premiere from amazon, new, for about $80 and lifetime for 500. Total being 580. Another 230 and you get more hard drive space, faster performance, new software, MUCH higher resale value and no worries about getting screwed.

    my motto is if your going to buy something...get the best one possible so you don't have regrets later (well within reason anyways...TiVo premiere to xl is not worth it neither is the elite IMO).
     
  17. unitron

    unitron Well-Known Member

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    Much higher resale value?

    Unlifetimed used Premieres are selling for $60 to $80, HDs for $50, S3s for $75 to $100.
     
  18. mattack

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    You apparently are not good in math on several fronts. The S3 is NOWHERE NEAR 10 years old.
     
  19. atmuscarella

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    While others have knocked you for over stating the age of Series 3 TiVos (released fall 2006) and the resale value of various TiVos, I will agree with your basic premise.

    Buying a new Premiere with lifetime and paying either approximately $500 or $600 (depending on if you qualify for multi-service discount or not) seems like a better and safer deal to me than paying $350+/- for a used Series 3 with lifetime.

    However the above is really a very individual thing, and what others think matters little when it comes to a person making an individual decision.
     
  20. shwru980r

    shwru980r Well-Known Member

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    The cost of the new Premiere is 66% more than the S3. How much more would the Premiere have to cost before it's worth it to get an S3?
     

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