burn a tivo file to DVD -- simplified

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by tkoff, Jan 16, 2006.

  1. Dec 1, 2009 #101 of 115
    steve614

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    Do you want a free solution or do you want to pay for something that is known to work and will do it all in one step (editing and burning the DVD, that is.)?

    http://www.videoredo.com/en/ProductTVS.htm
     
  2. Dec 3, 2009 #102 of 115
    qmtech

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    Sherman...
    I've tried every converter mentioned in this forum and several others, and only 1 will fix the sync. (was still hoping to find a freebie. alas, guess I'll have to cough up the cash)

    For anyone with the same problems…

    My failed trials include:
    Direct Show Dump Filter (this USED to work, but now unsync’s audio)
    Moyea Video Converter (does a TON of conversions, but still unsync’s audio)
    TV Decoder GUI (unsync’s audio)
    KMTTG (unsync’s audio)
    Drm-Removal (couldn’t get this to work at all)
    Pinnacle TRex (couldn’t get this to work at all)
    TV Harmony (couldn’t get this to work at all)
    …and so many more…

    Apparently videoredo is it. The ONLY thing on the internet at this time (that I can actually try out & confirm) that works right, and doesn't eff up the aud/vid sync.

    Kinda sux though, because all I need to do is convert the files so I can still edit them in Pinnacle. I'm a somewhat advanced video editor, and I don't care much for videoredo's editing or menu authoring functions. But for all the folks out there who aren't advanced users, I'd definitely say stick with videoredo if you want to make DVDs out of your Tivo stuff. As far as video software goes, it is pretty cheap, and gets the basics done fairly easily.
     
  3. Dec 3, 2009 #103 of 115
    dlfl

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    Strange that Pinnacle, with the advanced editing features you use, isn't able to adjust audio sync, as VRD can. Does Pinnacle do nonlinear editing (e.g., fades) or what is more advanced about it, just out of curiosity? I don't doubt the DVD menu features are better than VRD, if that's all you mean.

    Sounds like for your purposes you only need VRD Plus so you save $25 at least. VRD is about to release a new version with MPEG4 editing and transcoding capability and there will be upgrade pricing I'm sure, if that's of any interest.
     
  4. Dec 4, 2009 #104 of 115
    txporter

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    It sounds like you are having an issue that is being fixed by VRD's quick stream fix. The streams recorded from tv can have issues with their audio/video timestamps. Quick stream fix is a utility built into VideoRedo to fix this issues and is really the best one out there.
     
  5. nyy574

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    I have looked through these forums a lot and I think I have come up with the simplest way to burn your Tivo files to DVD, using all free software. I am not a technical person, so I hope this helps. I have successfully transferred shows many times with this method:

    1) Transfer the show to your computer using Tivo Desktop 2.8 software.

    2) Run the resulting .tivo file through DirectShow Dump Utility. Search these forums for a link to the software. This makes it an mpeg file.

    3) Finally, I burn it to DVD using DVD Flick, a free program (dvdflick.net).

    If you need to edit any programs, like taking out commercials or removing extra portions, do this in Windows MovieMaker after you've run the file through DirectShow. Save that new file as a .wmv file and burn it with DVD Flick. I've had some audio issues trying to burn it with MovieMaker, but DVD Flick works fine.

    Hope this helps.
     
  6. qmtech

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    Sherman...
    Thanks, but if you read the post directly above yours, you see that I mention DirectDump no longer works correctly. See below...

    Note how I mention Direct Dump USED to work. They did something that changed the files, or the way they transfer or something, and it doesn't anymore. At least not reliably. Which is when my problems began. I thought Direct Dump was great... until it stopped working right.

    In fact, if you do some real digging into this and other forums, other people say DirectDump is basically outdated technology. Sad but true. There are many replacement suggestions, but the only one I've found that works pretty consistently at this time is the Video ReDo software. (Somehow I've become an advocate for VRD... and I don't even work there, but I'm all about stuff that works like it is supposed to, and it pretty much does). Nonetheless, I still have a couple of videos (afters FINALLY burning over 100) that aren't syncing right. Still have to find a workaround for those few stragglers, but it sure beats the 100's of gigs of storage space I was using while looking for a solution.
     
  7. Jan 3, 2010 #107 of 115
    WakkoME

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    I recall have had issues in the past using DSD and Nero to edit tivo files, I believe it was something to do with installing or upgrading a program that altered the codecs that they were using, and by reinstalling DSD or Nero or both, things started working again.

    In the last year I stopped putting the files on DVD started storing the mpg files on a media server, and got tired of Nero, and tried Video Re-Do for its frame accurate and quick encoding, which I loved, but when the trial ran out, and I looked for alternatives, since I was having issues where sometimes the video resolution would change during commercials, and crash VRD. I came across a program from Womble called MPEG Video Wizard DVD (doesn't support .tivo). I used the free trial and it was able deal with the resolution change issue (so long as the mpg file started out in the right resolution) and considered buying it someday, but then it was offered at GiveAwayOfTheDay a couple months ago. The last couple days I've been catching up on editing files, still using DSD without any trouble. BTW, I'm using a Tivo HD, and Tivo Desktop 2.7 if that's important.

    Anyways, there's no doubt VideoReDo is great software, but in my case, I couldn't justify the expense. Sorry for the lengthy post, but I thought I'd throw my $0.02 in there.
     
  8. Aracnakat

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    Dan, I too have Roxio which is horrible so I appreciate your post and have downloaded the Trial Version of your product ...

    However .. I've gotten an error while trying to save two episodes of 24 to the DVD and the "Allow non-complaint DVD settings" is at the bottom of the screen but it is grayed out.

    Not sure what I'm doing wrong .. or can you not save episodes of 24 from Tivo?

    Thanks in advance for your assistance!
    Donna

    The videoredo.log is too long to repost so here's the top of the file .. mainly just a bunch of the same further down:
    #Initial VideoReDo log file installation
    2010-02-23 22:57:08 VRDConfiguration Wizard started for: VideoReDo-TVSuite.
    2010-02-23 22:59:09 Unable to create file: 'C:\Users\Public\Recorded TV\\Desktop.ini'
    Cause: '5'
    'C:\Users\Public\Recorded TV\\Desktop.ini'
    2010-02-23 22:59:09 VRDConfiguration Wizard completed.
    2010-02-23 22:59:11 Decoder support lib: 5.2, ippvcv8l.lib
    2010-02-23 22:59:11 Image support lib: 5.2, ippvcv8l.lib
    2010-02-23 22:59:12 OP: 0 0
    2010-02-23 22:59:12 VideoReDo TVSuite started. Licensed to: Trial Copy, Days left in trial: 15, Version: 3. 1. 5. 564 - Aug 5 2008 (00150046Trial}
    2010-02-23 22:59:12 Checking TVSuite registration: 100
    2010-02-23 23:00:11

    ***** Loading: C:\Users\Donna\Documents\My TiVo Recordings\24 - ''Day 8 1100PM - 1200AM'' (Recorded Feb 15, 2010, WFXGDT).TiVo


    2010-02-23 23:00:12 Horizontal size of: 1280 indicates HD stream. Forcing YUV acceleration.
    2010-02-23 23:00:12 HDTV material detected, switching on YUV acceleration, width: 1280, height: 720
    2010-02-23 23:00:12 Using display driver: VMR9
    2010-02-23 23:00:12 VMR9 (Windowed), MEDIASUBTYPE_YV12
    2010-02-23 23:00:12 VMR9 (Windowed), MEDIASUBTYPE_YV12
    2010-02-23 23:00:12 AC3 Audio Frame Error 1 at: 00:00:00.00
    2010-02-23 23:00:12 AC3 Audio Frame Error 1 at: 00:00:00.00
    2010-02-23 23:00:14 AC3 Audio Frame Error 2 at: 00:00:02.53
    2010-02-23 23:01:03

    ***** Loading: C:\Users\Donna\Documents\My TiVo Recordings\24 - ''Day 8 1200AM - 100AM'' (Recorded Feb 22, 2010, WFXGDT).TiVo


    2010-02-23 23:01:03 Horizontal size of: 1280 indicates HD stream. Forcing YUV acceleration.
    2010-02-23 23:01:03 HDTV material detected, switching on YUV acceleration, width: 1280, height: 720
    2010-02-23 23:01:03 Using display driver: VMR9
    2010-02-23 23:01:03 VMR9 (Windowed), MEDIASUBTYPE_YV12
    2010-02-23 23:01:03 VMR9 (Windowed), MEDIASUBTYPE_YV12
    2010-02-23 23:01:03 AC3 Audio Frame Error 1 at: 00:00:00.00
    2010-02-23 23:01:03 AC3 Audio Frame Error 1 at: 00:00:00.00
    2010-02-23 23:01:05 AC3 Audio Frame Error 2 at: 00:00:02.53
    2010-02-23 23:01:39 AC3 Audio Frame Error 2 at: 00:00:18.52
    2010-02-23 23:01:42 AC3 Audio Frame Error 3 at: 00:00:09.04
    2010-02-23 23:01:43 AC3 Audio Frame Error 4 at: 00:00:10.38
    2010-02-23 23:01:43 AC3 Audio Frame Error 5 at: 00:00:32.05
    2010-02-23 23:01:43 AC3 Audio Frame Error 6 at: 00:01:22.39
    2010-02-23 23:01:43 AC3 Audio Frame Error 7 at: 00:02:09.26
    2010-02-23 23:01:43 AC3 Audio Frame Error 8 at: 00:02:23.49
    2010-02-23 23:01:44 AC3 Audio Frame Error 3 at: 00:00:00.14
    2010-02-23 23:01:44 AC3 Audio Frame Error 9 at: 00:04:26.11
    2010-02-23 23:01:44 AC3 Audio Frame Error 10 at: 00:04:11.54
    2010-02-23 23:01:44 AC3 Audio Frame Error 11 at: 00:03:57.27
    2010-02-23 23:01:45 AC3 Audio Frame Error 12 at: 00:03:46.44
    2010-02-23 23:01:45 AC3 Audio Frame Error 13 at: 00:03:32.15
    2010-02-23 23:01:45 AC3 Audio Frame Error 4 at: 00:04:27.15
    2010-02-23 23:01:45 AC3 Audio Frame Error 14 at: 00:03:21.31
    2010-02-23 23:01:46 AC3 Audio Frame Error 15 at: 00:02:52.41
    2010-02-23 23:01:46 AC3 Audio Frame Error 16 at: 00:02:34.35
    2010-02-23 23:01:46 AC3 Audio Frame Error 17 at: 00:02:20.20
     
  9. Aracnakat

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    I think that this fix worked for my problem as well. The DVD appears to work although I only put it into the player quickly.

    If so .. this is great and so easy and I'll be a new customer .. just wish I could get my money back from Roxie!
     
  10. mchief

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    I dropped Roxio at v8 and never looked back. VRD TV Suite since then, without a problem.
     
  11. Aracnakat

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    Everything seems to work but I do get these errors at the end:

    Output Complete

    Audio frame errors: 17
    Video output frames: 226241
    Audio output frames: 235904
    Processing time (secs): 4306
    Processed frames/sec: 52.53
    Actual Video Bitrate: 4.29 Mbps
     
  12. steve614

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    You will probably find that most files will have some errors. I believe that VRD fixes these errors and it's just reporting what was found.
    As long as the numbers aren't extraordinarily large, I wouldn't worry about it.

    Look at it like this: 17 frames is just over half a second of material (29.97 fps), and consider that those 17 frame errors could be scattered throughout the program, I doubt you would even notice them.
     
  13. Apr 6, 2010 #113 of 115
    shucky5155

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    Have a read here if you havent already, besure to have a good look through I'm sure you'll find something handy. Least I did
    google = kmttg. ( I'm not able to post a link )
     
  14. Cheddie

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    does anyone know how to take a .tivo file already burned on a DVD and change it to a .mov file?
     
  15. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    VideoReDo TVSuite v4 w/H.264 can. You can open a DVD by selecting File->Open title from DVD, then you can save that to an H.264 MP4 file which is the same as a .mov file.

    Sorry I missed this when you first posted it. Probably not relevant any more, but just in case... The only time the box is grayed out is when the source video is HD. DVDs have a maximum resolution of 720x480, so if the source is HD then it has to be recoded to a lower resolution to work. The "Allow non-complaint..." box is meant for SD resolutions which are not normally part of the DVD spec, but will still play on most DVD players. For example the S2 TiVo records most content at 480x480, which is not technically DVD complaint. However VRD will still allow you to author a DVD from it without recoding which will play on most DVD players.
     

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