burn a tivo file to DVD -- simplified

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by tkoff, Jan 16, 2006.

  1. Jan 30, 2006 #21 of 115
    Denvers Dawgs

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    MYdvd is garbage. I have tried 20 or so times to get it to work. It worked the very first time I used it, trial version, and that was it. Bought the 6.1 version never worked. Try using directshowdump, then any authoring program of your choice (TDA is mine), then burn to dvd. This method isn't fool proof though, as tivos files are 480x480 which is not a dvd standard format. Some dvd players play these outputs fine(not my Toshiba or older Samsung, but my friends newer Sony does). If your dvd player doesn't play these videos correctly try using TMPGEnc Encoder after directshowdump, to make the tivo mpegs into dvd compliant mpegs. Then author and burn.

    Here is my Process

    1. Download from tivo (with TiVoToGo)
    2. Convert with Dirctshow Dump(to unlock mpeg from tivoDRM)
    3. DVDpatcher to change 1st header only horizontal to 720(so video will work in TMPGEnc)
    4. Author with TMPGEnc DVD Author
    5. Use DVDpatcher to change 1st VOB horizontal back to 480
    6. Burn with copytodvd.




    I really hope that all this upset that the TiVo subscribers are showing, about the lousy software company TiVo Partnered with, they smarten up and either fix there encoding or find another partner. $60 for a program that they recommend that does not work is not good for their PR.

    Also, don't bother contacting Sonic. I have had a post at their sonic online help area there for 2months with out a reply. I have add to it every week, and still nothing. Also, stay away from ROXIO products as well, as Sonic has bought them.
     
  2. Jan 30, 2006 #22 of 115
    BL

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    After you have DSD'd a show, do you then burn with MyDVD or switch to something else?
     
  3. Jan 30, 2006 #23 of 115
    Denvers Dawgs

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    Something else (TDA- TEMPEnc Dvd Author). MyDvd is useless it crashes 100% of the time, plus you can edit a 1hr show in 15 with TDA where as it took me about 1 hour because of the lag in the Mydvd program to edit the same video.
     
  4. Jan 30, 2006 #24 of 115
    greg_burns

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    Don't know about TDA (TEMPEnc Dvd Author), but Nero Vision Express will transcode the .mpeg file to proper DVD format when it authors the disc. At least that is what I think it is doing that takes so long. :rolleyes:

    I've never experienced "centered video" you are describing when using NVE as my authoring program.
     
  5. Jan 31, 2006 #25 of 115
    SuperK

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    Does the quality of the recording suffer after doing all these manipulations?

    K
     
  6. Jan 31, 2006 #26 of 115
    TivoNM

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    I can understand everyones frustration with the Sonic MyDVD v6. Sounds like a lot of peole have had a hard time. I have to say though that i got Sonic MyDVD v.7 with my computer and it seems to burn .tivo files just fine with no crashing and I am able to view my burned programs in my dvd player that is about 4-5 years old. I am also using DVD-R discs. i don't know if that makes a diffrence. The sonic sw I am using is the light vversion so i am not able to edit shows, but imagine that I will be able to with little hastle if i upgrade to the full version. Just thought I would share my experience and hope someone else can benfit from it.
     
  7. Feb 6, 2006 #27 of 115
    bbeck50

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    Can you get more specific & break down the steps you use?- I have MyDVD 8, but there are many options, Add New Movie, Capture/Import, Add Slideshow, Add CineMagic Movie, Add Intro Movie, Add Submenu. I've tried everything and can't get a successful burn to play on my non computer DVD player. I've had trouble loading from my hard drive, can't always seem to find my files
     
  8. Feb 7, 2006 #28 of 115
    greg_burns

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    If you can get your succesfull burns to play on your computer but not on your DVD then 2 things could be the problem.

    #1. You burned a data DVD, instead of "authoring" a DVD movie. Unlikely if you can see a DVD menu (i.e. chapters, etc.)

    #2. You media is incompatible with your DVD player. Try DVD-R, that is usually more likely to work.
     
  9. Feb 7, 2006 #29 of 115
    Denvers Dawgs

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    Nope, the quality isn't touched.
     
  10. Feb 8, 2006 #30 of 115
    starvoyager

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    Its bad enough that we paid for tivo
    Its bad enough that we paid for tv guide from tivo
    Its bad enough that we cannot record our show as easy as they take our cash
    Its bad enough,I bought two tivo
    Its bad enough,that I love my tivo... lol
     
  11. Feb 9, 2006 #31 of 115
    Scott Atkinson

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    I was able to use Nero v.6 to transfer a show to dvd. However, the quality seems to take a hit along the way. It's notably fuzzier than the original and the tivo'ed to go files.

    Also, it is a slow burn, to put it mildly.

    Scott Atkinson
     
  12. Feb 9, 2006 #32 of 115
    greg_burns

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    If your video is "bigger" than what can fit on a single sided DVD, Nero will compress it to fit. This will make it look fuzzy.

    I not sure off the top of my head what constitutes the "size" of a video. Is it just it's length, or does the quality settings come into play here?

    I find you can fit roughly 1:30 minutes of video w/o compression. That is about 2 one-hour shows with commercials removed.

    Tivo files are not in an official DVD aspect ratio (352x240, 352x480, 704x480, or 720x480) and must be transcoded. At least, that is my understanding of what is happening during this slow process.
     
  13. Feb 10, 2006 #33 of 115
    puckettcg

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    I have been pouring the internet trying to find someone who can answer the question as to why MyDVD crashes 100% of the time. And, more specfiically, what can be done about it. I've tried the other suggestions to bypass MyDVD and I get crazy messages about not being able to open a Tivo file. I have two new PC's. One an HP Viiv PC with lots of memory and a dual core processor. The other a new Dell XPS Laptop. I just don't understand why after 1-2 hours of the transcoding process, at the end of all that, I get an error telling me MyDVD must shut down - and everything is lost. Every single time... on both computers. I've also tried it with both network and HBO programs thinking perhaps the premium channel had some kind of copy protection on it.

    I've also tried DVD to file - and it actually works without crashing, and I can open and play the file, but can't figure how to get it from the file to an actual DVD.

    Has anyone encountered this problem, and figured out a way to fix it? I'm running Tivo Desktop v2.2, and I have a full version of MyDVD which I bought for the laptop; the desktop came with a stripped down (no edit function) version preinstalled.

    Thanks
     
  14. Feb 10, 2006 #34 of 115
    greg_burns

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    :confused: If you use DirectShow Dump, you will get a regular .mpg file. Then anything will work with it.

    Do you mean "DVD to folder" or "DVD to image file"?

    Using Nero Burning ROM it would be a snap once you have the DVD saved as either one of those two to then burn it to a DVD compliant disc. Of course, if you were using Nero you probably wouldn't be crashing when burning to begin with. Sorry, that was a low blow. :p

    Maybe somebody with Sonic can give your instructions on to get your DVD file image burned to disc.
     
  15. Feb 10, 2006 #35 of 115
    Scott Atkinson

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    I'm burning very small files - news stories that run two minutes or less. Still playing, because I suspect it's something I'm doing wrong.

    s.
     
  16. Feb 11, 2006 #36 of 115
    puckettcg

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    Using Nero Burning ROM it would be a snap once you have the DVD saved as either one of those two to then burn it to a DVD compliant disc. Of course, if you were using Nero you probably wouldn't be crashing when burning to begin with. Sorry, that was a low blow. :p

    Took your advice, and downloaded DirectShow Dump to convert my Tivo files. About that same time, decided to uninstall and reinstall MyDVD - which worked twice, and on the 3rd burn crashed again. Downloaded Trial version of Nero - it locks up to, only it doesn't even get as far in the process. It locks up on the editing and chapter functions. And, it locks up my entire computer so that I have to restart it. At least with MyDVD it didn't lock up my computer, just shut down the program.

    I just don't get why it is so difficult to do something that should be simple.
     
  17. Feb 11, 2006 #37 of 115
    greg_burns

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    Sorry to hear that. :( I, for one, don't use Nero for it's editing feature. I prefer VideoRedo for removing commercials (if that is what you are doing).

    Having said that, I've never had Nero 6 lock up for me ever with freed .tivo files when using the editing feature. I just purchased Nero 7 and haven't used it much yet, but haven't had any problems so far. knock on wood.

    I have to wonder if there isn't something about your machine(s) in common that is a compatiblity problem with this sort of software. :confused:

    Can you still burn to an image or folder succesfully? If that works reliably you can then burn the image to disc as separate step. Maybe that would indicate where the problems lies.
     
  18. Feb 11, 2006 #38 of 115
    Frank784

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    I tried using your steps, and after I patch the Mgp file with the patcher, the video widened itself, and basically was one and a half of the video side by side, if you know what I mean. I assumed thats what was supposed to happen when converting to 720. I've also never used Tmpgenc before, and after wandering around, I found the merge/cut section. I opened the file, but didn't know how to cut out certain pieces. For the sake of trying, I just made it end half way through, then stopped it. Then I put a new name down for it to create, but then I would get an error saying that It couldn't create the file. I then tried to use browse to select the original file, figuring it would just overwrite itself, but the whole program closes when I do that. The way I downloaded it, theres no install option, I just have to open the .exe file from winrar.
    I have nero6, but it seems that because I don't have a DVD license or something like that, I'm not able to even try to edit files. Then when I try to just burn the freed mpg file from direct dump, its not recognized..only .vob files are allowed. I have no idea how to convert from mpg to vob.
    Sorry for the long post, I'm brand new to all of this.
    Thanks

    -Frank
     
  19. Feb 11, 2006 #39 of 115
    greg_burns

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    Just to be sure, you are running Nero Vision Express and not just Nero Burning Rom?

    You could be right about not having the DVD Plug-in for Nero if you have an OEM version.

    see link
     
  20. Feb 11, 2006 #40 of 115
    Frank784

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    wow, so for $8, I can take an mpg file and edit out commercials, make a menu of videos and burn to DVDs?
     

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