Bug Fixes When?

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by Resist, Mar 26, 2011.

  1. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Just back out qucikly and come back to the folder. It only takes one second. and the folder will be populated.

    The issue is fixed now isn't it? I don't see it on my Premieres running the HD menus.
     
  2. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    Of course they're worth it - you'll get all of your money back (if not more) if you sell these boxes on fleabay/craigslist in future.
     
  3. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow Several LT/All-In Roamios & Minis for sale

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    I was more focused towards the LT subs possibly not being worth it, in the event that:

    - TiVo should go bankrupt / out-of-business

    - TiVo gets bought by somebody not willing to honor the LT subs

    - TiVo uses the 30-day notice clause to terminate LT subs

    Before I have reached the point of them reaching the point of the LT subs "paying for themselves" (or more so, just getting enough years of service).

    So, I agree with you, that I could get recoup my money on fleabay. But, only if I were to do so before something like the above scenarios happen (or solid sources start reporting that they are about to happen). That would certainly cause a free-fall in used LT TiVo prices and demand.

    I just don't have the faith in TiVo that I used to.
     
  4. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow Several LT/All-In Roamios & Minis for sale

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    I never said "stopping all efforts" in that post, so why are you quoting it?

    The Dan203 post I was referring to exists in another thread.

    I read from several mainstream news sites, tech news sites, a few blogs, and other forums, which constitutes the "seemingly reliable sources", I spoke of. Would you like a list of them so that you can edify yourself with more than just the TCF postings? Other than putting that list together, if you like, I'm not going to indulge your need to make a tit-for-tat firefight in every thread you decide to participate in.
     
  5. Resist

    Resist Well-Known Member

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    Obviously you have to back out and come back in, to populate the folder again. But that is not a fix to what is causing the problem in the first place. That's like saying your car engine keeps stalling but you fixed it by starting it up again. The reason for the stall has not been addressed.
     
  6. mattack

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    But how was the play, Mrs. Lincoln?

    But seriously, were they impressed except for this glitch?
     
  7. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    fine here is your eaxact quote
    I was referring to you buying into the stopping all development 'on older platforms' but had not put deep thought into my sentence to add the rest. Thanks for parsing that for me.

    oh and replying to each specific point and arrogantly acting like I was not well versed on TiVo because you could list blogs --- then saying you would not engage in a tit for tat- priceless :p
     
  8. Alcatraz

    Alcatraz Occasionally Helpful

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    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=8384666#post8384666

    The Netflix issue has already been resolved.
     
  9. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    I meant it's fixed if you run the HD menus. I have not seen that issue on my Premieres but I only run the HD menus.
     
  10. tivogurl

    tivogurl New Member

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    There are many arguably worse bugs TiVo has no apparent intention of ever fixing:

    Missing or incomplete recordings are nevertheless marked as "recorded" for purposes of scheduling and the 28-day window, so later showings of a missing or incomplete episode will not get recorded. Obviously, immediate rescheduling should be done when this is detected.

    If a scheduled recording is missing (no signal for example), TiVo leaves no message or Now Playing entry to remind you of the fact.

    Overlapping recordings on the same channel take up two tuners, not one, for both recording and conflict resolution.

    No marker is kept when playing all episodes of a folder. TiVo thus forgets where it was should you stop and restart.

    In some cases, returning to a list after looking at an item returns you to the first page in the list, not the location of the item. That gets real frustrating when deep down in a list. Deleted Programs (there are others) comes immediately to mind. I have no idea why Deleted Programs seems to be using different list handling code than To Do (which doesn't have this bug).
     
  11. Resist

    Resist Well-Known Member

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    Yes, they liked it but couldn't get over having to pay a monthly fee for the subscription service for the box. And without the service Tivo is just like a VCR without the tape, it works but is not as easy. I suggested the lifetime service, but they about flipped at the cost. Sadly the economic times are tough on them right now.
     
  12. solutionsetc

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    In the old days the fee was worth it. Periodically, users got major upgrades like MRV & TTGO. Folks were always looking forward to tivo's next big idea.

    Now-a-days, not only does it seem they have run out of ideas, they don't seem interested in implementing anyone else's regardless of how many times they are asked for.
     
  13. Krandor

    Krandor Active Member

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    I am not sure these days I would reccomend TiVo to somebody else and I love the box. The mobile and media space is changing a lot right now except for TiVo and the features that most keep me on TiVo are not ones that the general viewer cares about and I don't think we are far fro the day when other comapnies will have those features plus more. If you are not already invested in the "tivo ecosystem" I am not sure now is a good time to buy in. I have a hard time making that case right now with things like the premier still not fixed a year after release.
     
  14. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    I find this annoying too but you could make a case that a user might want two distinct, full specified length recordings for archive purposes or whatever. I'm sure their write to disk routine is not smart enough to handle spooling one tuner to two files.
     
  15. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    actually, even in the old days many found the fees not worth it. You had to line up a bunch of costs to see what your actual net change was and that was assuming you really wanted a DVR versus just thinking that sounds cool to have.

    TiVo was always most successful on DirectTV when DirectTV pushed the DVR advantage and it was a small monthly fee for DirectTV users.

    DVRs may seem must have to us, but for the general population that does not seem to be the case. Getting video on demand without thinking about setting up the recording before hand will win out in the long run.
     
  16. Krandor

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    VoD is something TiVo really needs to figure out how to make work especially with companies like Starz pushing back when they are going to release shows on Netflix. Hulu also has real odd release scheduled for many shows even if Hulu+ ever comes to TiVo.

    TiVo either needs better contracts with content providers or a way to tap into Cable companies VoD.
     
  17. orangeboy

    orangeboy yes, I AM orangeboy!

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    This doesn't make sense. So TiVo's service with little or no features (MRV & TTG) was more valued than TiVo's service that includes those features? :confused:

    People are idiots. One of the ideas that TiVo has implemented that tends to prove such a statement is the Free Space Indicator. TiVo DVRs manage space requirements just fine without *any* user intervention whatsoever. Having an FSI implemented in TiVo because "my cable company's DVR had one" was a wasted effort on TiVo's part. A cable company may have needed an FSI because it couldn't manage storage well.
     
  18. Krandor

    Krandor Active Member

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    Before MRV and TTG there was not much cometition to TiVo especially from Cable company boxes. It was really just TiVo and replay at that time. So the service was valuable because there were only two places you could get it from. It was either TiVo, Replay, or VCR.

    TTG and MRV were added before you saw a lot of the mass rollouts of cableco DVRs.

    Different times. In fact that was one of the main competitive points between TiVo and replay. TiVo had monthly fees and replay was higher cost up-front but no monthly fees.
     
  19. orangeboy

    orangeboy yes, I AM orangeboy!

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    I just fixed my post to clarify TiVo's Service as the subject of "value".
     
  20. solutionsetc

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    No… but a service that includes regular upgrades that bring desired enhancements 'is'.

    Perhaps… but they are the ones writing the checks. I could care less about a space indicator, but if the premie had cooperative scheduling, network interoperability,DLNA awareness, show move (as opposed to copy) I would have paid more attention to it… and I would have been thrilled if it all just showed up on my THDs one day. Instead I have ad popups and YouTube and FrameChannel?!?! [​IMG]
     

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