Breaking Bad "Full Measure" S3 Finale 6/13/10 + Director Interview Spoilers

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  1. Jun 13, 2010 #1 of 113
    billboard_NE

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    Edge of the seat and holding my breath.

    My Tivo had a recording time of 1 hour 48 min.?? Imagine my disappointment when the extra 48 min is for a sneak peak for Rubicon??

    I am not sure I can wait another year for this show to return, but what am I going to do?
     
  2. Jun 14, 2010 #2 of 113
    john4200

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    Walt is good at thinking fast under pressure. But he has made yet another bad decision -- I think that Jesse's idea of turning in Gus and Witness Protection has got to be better than cooking for Gus after killing Gale. If he thought it was tense in the lab this week, I can hardly imagine how it will be going forward.

    Walt may be good at thinking fast, but his long term planning is not so hot. I was disappointed that he did not take the precaution of having the details of Gus' operation stashed with third parties to be released upon Walt's death or disappearance. Even if he did not, he could have claimed that he did to buy himself some more time.

    Does anyone have any doubts whether Jesse put a bullet into Gale's head?

    The first time I watched it, I thought Jesse changed his aim a little to his right before firing. But I watched it a few more times and I think it was just the camera shifting angle -- you can see the wall in the background moving.
     
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    dswallow

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    You know this is just the beginning of the end for Gus. We have "The Cartel" gunning for Gus, so we have two options coming -- Walt takes over Gus's operations; or Walt makes a deal with "The Cartel."

    ... all after a full season of a Walt vs. Gus war for leverage, of course. :)

    BTW, Rubicon was great. Can't wait for it to start in August.
     
  4. Jun 14, 2010 #4 of 113
    mrdazzo7

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    Can someone explain to me exactly what the scene with Mike and the Asians was about? I was working on some stuff while watching that part and wasn't following what happened. I know it had something to do with the cartel, but what exactly was it?

    And yeah, I agree that Walt's plan was a little stupid for the long-term. All Gus really needs to do is get someone else to learn his method. I'm sure Gus has a back up plan somewhere since Walt obviously cannot cook forever. No matter what Walt does now, if Gus lives, he dies. Maybe this stuff with the cartel will eventually lead to Walt taking Gus's place...

    I feel bad for Jessie... he didn't want to do what he did at all, but he knew it was the only way to save Walt, who had just saved him. Actually I really feel bad for Gale... dude was in the wroooong business. It would have been interesting if Walt had gone to the DEA as suggested and instead of witness protection, became an informant... could have set up some interesting stories for next season, but then it would strongly water-down the point of the show, which is good people turning into bad guys.

    Also, killing Gale might keep Walt alive, but it doesn't stop Gus from continuing to go after Jessie, or even Walt's family. All Gus has to do is threaten Walt's family and Walt will do whatever he wants. What is to stop Gus from killing say Skylar, or even bed-ridden Hank, and telling him they'll kill his entire family if he doesn't cook?

    I felt this season was good, but not nearly as good as season two. A lot of the drama in this one didn't really make sense, like Jessie magically running into the sister of the kid who killed Combo and then going after them knowing he'd be killed, or Jessie stealing meth from a hyper-violent cartel knowing he could get caught, or Walt and Jessie executing a man to save their own lives when doing so is no where near a guarantee of everyone's safety.

    Not saying it was crap, obviously, but in my opinion I think they struggled a bit to come up with some of the conflict. Season two was damn near perfect in that regard (except for the reveal of all those "flash forwards"). I love the ending of this one though because one can only imagine the ramifications for everyone involved.
     
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    john4200

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    I did not completely follow the opening scenes. The PI came in and killed 4 guys who may have been threatening the Asians. The Asians were in business with Gus somehow, and had not been returning calls from Gus. So Gus sent the PI in. It seemed like the PI had some idea of what was going on, but did not know exactly who the 4 guys were.

    What kind of gun did the PI have? I was surprised that it looked like his first shot hit both guys. Does that type of gun, with a suppressor (which I believe slows down the muzzle velocity) have the power to go through two guys?
     
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    spikedavis

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    I was absolutely riveted in the last 10 minutes. I had no idea what was going to happen.


    Poor Gale.
     
  7. Jun 14, 2010 #7 of 113
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    Seems to me the Asian dude was selling chemicals to Gus. If he's to be believed, the cartel dudes were holding him hostage and preventing him from selling and delivering chemicals to Gus. The entire sequence was beautiful. The music had that 70's cop show/porno bow chicka wah wah sound to it. If you had any doubts about Mike's badassery, they were laid to rest in that sequence.

    The pistol was an H&K M23. .45 ACP with a suppressor from that range could penetrate a body.

    EDIT: just rewatched the scene and noticed the bullet penetrated both dudes then broke the window. Unless the round penetrated both men's throats a la Dwight Schrute, I'm pretty sure that's impossible.

    I think Gale is dead. Pretty sad, but oh well. Lie with dogs, etc.

    Overall, I thought the finale was excellent. I was in suspense the entire time. I really dug the intro with young Walt and Skylar looking at the house they would end up living in. I liked how the show started with the shot of the duraflame log in the fireplace, and then later we see firewood in the fireplace when Walt gets the call from Jesse. A small detail from a crazy finale, but i thought it was worth mentioning.

    Do we really have to wait a year for season 4 ?? :(
     
  8. Jun 14, 2010 #8 of 113
    Regina

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    Saul: Ever play Laser Tag? It's good cardio, and you get to shoot at kids! :D:p
     
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    NatasNJ

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    Yeah. I don't get Walt's long term thinking here at all. You remove Gale which keeps Walt alive for a short period of time. Not sure what the thinking beyond that is.
    With Gale down even if Walt is cooking it will be at gunpoint it seems. So this plan makes little to no sense.
     
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    NatasNJ

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    Another thing I noticed. When the PI was about to kill Walt, Walt mentioned searching for Jesse in Virginia and I think the PI seemed surprised that Walt knew that. Kind of hinting that he knew the Lawyer was in cahoots with Walt & Jesse. Could fall back onto Saul next season.
     
  11. Jun 14, 2010 #11 of 113
    pdhenry

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    I don't hold out much hope for Jessie, long term...
     
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    NatasNJ

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    I think before the show ends he will be 6ft under but I think he is critical for the show to move forward. The few episodes without him were much weaker. Jesse & Walt are the two untouchables. Anyone else can be knocked off without a major drop.
     
  13. Jun 14, 2010 #13 of 113
    nataylor

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    They were going to kill Walt. Walt needed out of that situation, and all things considered, although not perfect, his plan was pretty good. As Walt said, Gus has a huge investment in this operation. He needs the cooking to continue no matter what. It can not stop. Walt is the only person who can do it. Gus can not kill Walt with no one to take over the cooking. Gus can't do anything that would prevent Walt from cooking (like hurting his family). Walt's in a pretty good position (at least compared to being just minutes away from being killed).
     
  14. Jun 14, 2010 #14 of 113
    type_g

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    Anyone else notice, when the PI guy shot the guy through the wall, the wall had no bullet hole?? Weird, but great season ending to bad have to wait so LONG for next season.
     
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    Legion

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    I didnt like the logic at all in this episode. Yes Gus has alot of money wrapped up, but his ROI isnt being measured in days and it isnt being measured by anyone but him. So what if he shuts down a week or two? So what if a substandard cook came in? You are talking meth here, not pumpkin pies. Methheads are usually not known for their fine palates.

    You go the full measure. You dont worry about who is going to cook the same quality of meth for you.
     
  16. Jun 14, 2010 #16 of 113
    nataylor

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    But Walt is using a non-standard method of cooking. There might not be anyone else willing to work for Gus that could even pull off a sub-standard cook.
     
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    Legion

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    Would Gus risk life in prison on that? Walt is not a team player.....he is a problem......Gus has to insure that his business can continue and that he can trust his people before all else.

    If he could no longer trust Walt, he would eliminate that variable. Would it harm the operation? Short term yes, long term no. And sometimes you have to retreat to move forward.
     
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    Drugs dealers at Gus' level are not any different from a large corporation. They have customers and commitments for delivery as well as quality expectations. I imagine Gus' operation is sending product to a network of distributors - not directly to low level dealers. If Gus cannot deliver product for a week or two, the distributors would go to someone else for what they need. If they do that, who's to say, they don't continue with the alternate source? In addition, if Gus' operation did suffer some type of interruption, that could be an indicator that Gus is not totally in control of his operation. This would definitely be of interest to the cartel. Gus must to keep producing and keep up appearances that his is in complete control.
     
  19. Jun 14, 2010 #19 of 113
    Gerryex

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    I'm not so sure! The way I saw it Jessie did move his arm with the gun away from Gale. Also I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe Walt would sanction killing someone in cold blood who was not a direct threat to him. Yes, I know Walt just killed one of the dealers after running over the other one, but they were a direct threat to him and Jessie.

    I'll bet that when the next season begins Gale is still alive and Walt's plan was really something else.

    If it ends up that way I'll post a link back to here from the new season's first episode and will say "I told you so!!!"

    Gerry
     
  20. Jun 14, 2010 #20 of 113
    nataylor

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    I'm just going by the internal logic of the show. Walt said "The cooking CAN NOT STOP." Assuming he's right, Gus has to keep Walt around until there is a replacement.
     

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