Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by Wingershute, Nov 13, 2010.

  1. Dec 5, 2010 #361 of 387

    ~kyle Member

    May 14, 2009


    I'm pretty sure the only difference is that TiVo paid to have the XL tested and certified to meet THX standards. I believe the A/V specs are identical between the two.

    This was also mentioned by bfdtv over on the avs forums in the official TiVo Premiere thread.
  2. Dec 5, 2010 #362 of 387

    lessd Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2005
    I guess you did not get my sarcasm in my post as this Thread has turned into what my price for PLS on TP/TPXL. Unless your purchasing 100s of TPs what $10 or $20, any price under $100 is a good price for the TP.
  3. Dec 5, 2010 #363 of 387

    darksurtur Member

    Jan 2, 2008
    THX optimizer software can also be found on many, many DVDs (in SD, of course, but that doesn't matter for most of what it does), some Blu-rays, and online for free, I think. See
  4. Dec 5, 2010 #364 of 387

    VideoGrabber New Member

    Sep 11, 2003
    That's a great price, and I agree it's worth it just for spare parts.

    Technically, you should qualify for neither. :( Even if you do have an upgrade offer on your account (as I do). TiVos purchased at these holiday prices (between Nov14 and EOY) are specifically excluded from any MSD pricing, right in the T&Cs.

    Heck, I have a TP I bought directly from TiVo this summer, after calling to cancel service on a unit I returned to BB when I discovered the OTA tuner was sub-par compared to my S3. The CSR promised me the issue had been fixed, and would be rolled out within weeks, and knocked 70 bucks off a TP he'd send me to check it out. So I got it for just $200, which seemed like a good price. I passed on the PLS at $199 at the time, because frankly, I didn't believe he was correct. He certainly was persuasive though, and said there'd be no problem to add it later.

    In any event, the promised fixes never did materialize (and still haven't), the unit went back in the box, and all my attempts to obtain the $199 PLS in the past week have failed. And it's not like I haven't tried, multiple times. Neither on-line or on the phone, they won't budge from $299, which ironically would make the net cost cheaper to just buy another one from them at $270 and get the $199 PLS that way.

    [BTW, I did get one online CSR to tell me in a Chat that "$199 PLS on my unit would be no problem". I said great!, and should have left it at that. But I made the mistake(?) of asking for a reference #, at which point he then said, "Oh and the PLS might be $299". :confused: So much for $199 PLS being "no problem". WTF??]

    But if you DO manage to pull off the $199 PLS, please make sure to come back and rub our noses in it. ;)

    That's the open issue. What will happen after Jan 1st? There's no way to know that until it happens, and frankly, speculation is rather futile.
  5. Dec 5, 2010 #365 of 387

    VideoGrabber New Member

    Sep 11, 2003


    Les, I get your point about quibbling over a few bucks difference on $100 TPs, but I disagree that "any price under $100 is a good price for the TP". If that price means a minimum obligation of $240 for a year of service, I think that's a lousy price. :eek:
  6. Dec 8, 2010 #366 of 387

    lsuwest New Member

    Oct 22, 2003
    Just FYI, I recieved my 6ave Tivo Premiere last week and finally was able to call Tivo this week to activate it. I informed them that I bought it on the 13th and had no problems. I wanted the orginal monthly price and had no problems getting it. I did not inquire about lifetime. Now I have to deal with Comast to set it up....
  7. Dec 9, 2010 #367 of 387

    moyekj Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2006
    FYI and not too surprisingly ANTOnline botched the order. Amazon estimate for delivery was today so I contacted ANTOnline since they never indicated they shipped the unit and sure enough they responded and said unit wasn't available so the Amazon order will be canceled (credit card had not been charged yet anyway). Probably just as well as I don't really need another unit anyway as I still prefer the more reliable and robust S3 OLED unit, plus I don't have to try and get lifetime unit during this "promo" period.
  8. Dec 9, 2010 #368 of 387

    MikeAndrews Registered abuser

    Jan 17, 2002
    You can cancel the subscription or change to 3 year(?), annual or lifetime service in the first 30 days, but in any case you have a one year commitment, so I'd go with annual service at a minimum.
  9. speed_phreak

    speed_phreak Member

    Apr 6, 2006
    x2! Way better than the crappy Comcast box it replaced. I haven't had any freezes or any other issues with my Premiere, yet.... I am using the SD menus though. The HD menus are a little cluttered with too much going on.
  10. spiraleyes

    spiraleyes Tivo noob

    Sep 17, 2007
    Salt Lake City
    Bumping this thread after I saw the Premier on Amazon for $99 a few days ago. I didn't know about this whole holiday promo situation when I saw the price. I didn't see the fine print (or at least realize what it meant) on Amazon.

    I called Tivo CS yesterday and told the rep I was looking to upgrade to a Premier and wanted to ensure that I'd be able to transfer my current $12.95 rate to the new box even though I don't renew until Sept. He said it's no problem and to call them back when I get the new box for activation.

    Excitedly, I ordered the Tivo from Amazon a few minutes later. Last night I got home from work and started browsing around the Premier reviews on Amazon and the forums here. I was crushed to find out that the $20/mo service was connected to all the holiday promo boxes.

    My new Tivo arrives tomorrow and I'm interested to see if Tivo will let me keep my current rate plan or if I'm S.O.L. I don't want to ship it back to Amazon, but I will if Tivo won't keep me at my current rate plan.

    I'll keep ya'll updated, wish me luck!
  11. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

    Sep 19, 2006
    In the ATL
    If you gave him your account info you should be ok since they keep notes of your CS calls, but I am surprised that he didn't mention the new terms.
  12. swkenney

    swkenney Custom User Title

    Oct 27, 2004
    Martinez, CA
    The TCD746320 Premiere is on for $87 and free shipping.
    How much would I have to pay for service if I have a Series 1 with lifetime service?
  13. Rdian06

    Rdian06 New Member

    Apr 12, 2008 sale points to (aka TigerDirect) with a coupon code to knock $10 off the normal price of $97. The page says:

    "*Service Bundle Offer: Get a TiVo Premiere box for $99.99 or a TiVo Premiere XL box for $299.99 when you sign up for a new 1-year monthly subscription commitment to the TiVo service at $19.99 per month, plus tax (renews monthly after 1 year). Early termination fees and terms and conditions apply. Offer valid through Feb 28, 2011. TiVo reserves the right to terminate this promotion at any time. "

    So it seems the $19.99 pricing has been extended through the end of Feb 2011.
  14. Jan 2, 2011 #374 of 387

    alyssa Active Member

    Dec 7, 2003
    Sunny SoCal
    I finally got around to putting lifetime on my new premier. It's one of the pre-price change units from 6th ave.
    No problems, didn't even have to fax in my receipt.
  15. Jan 3, 2011 #375 of 387

    Legacy777 Member

    Sep 11, 2008
    Houston, TX
    I'm looking to try and do this as well. When you upgraded to the lifetime, did you have a previous lifetime tivo, and if so did you get the upgrade price of $199 or have to pay the full price of $399?

    I have an existing lifetime tivo and am supposedly eligible for their upgrade lifetime price of $199, but according to the live chat I had with a tivo rep, that price of $199 is only good if purchased directly through them....but wanted to see that is not the case.

  16. Jan 4, 2011 #376 of 387

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

    Oct 11, 2005
    Rochester NY
    TiVo currently appears to have 3 pricing options available for lifetime service.
    1. $399 for people who do not have an upgrade offer or do not qualify for MSD (Multi Service Discount)
    2. $299 for people who qualify for a MSD
    3. $199 for people with existing lifetime units through a direct purchase from TiVo only special upgrade offer.
    To confuse the issue TiVo also is selling these sub $100 boxes that do not qualify for lifetime service at all and require a $19.95/mo service fee. This started with sub $100 boxes sold on or after 11/14/2010.

    And to confuse the issue even more TiVo appears to not always follow their own policy and grant some people lifetime service outside of the above "rules".

    Specifically some people have stated they were able get $299 lifetime pricing on a sub $100 box purchased after 11/14/2010 and some people have stated they were able to get the $199 lifetime pricing on boxes purchased before 11/14/2010 that were not purchased from TiVo directly.

    I have not seen anyone state they have received the $199 lifetime pricing on a box purchase after 11/14/2010 unless they purchase it from TiVo directly.

    Good Luck,
  17. Jan 4, 2011 #377 of 387

    Legacy777 Member

    Sep 11, 2008
    Houston, TX

    Thank you for the information! I suspected there'd be some various options that were out there. I will probably end up getting the $199 lifetime through Tivo since that's likely the cheapest option in the long run without having to lie or hassle with trying to get a sub $100 box upgraded.

  18. Jan 4, 2011 #378 of 387

    VideoGrabber New Member

    Sep 11, 2003
    That's the most compact, comprehensive, and coherent summary of the situation I've seen posted here. :up: :up: Hopefully that will clarify the situation for those still in the dark. Thanks.
  19. Jan 4, 2011 #379 of 387

    lessd Well-Known Member

    Jan 23, 2005
    I may have missed the post but I never saw anybody that purchased (not from TiVo itself) a $99 (or less) TP after 11/13 and got Lifetime Service and not lied to TiVo about the date they purchased the unit, many people that purchased the $95 TP from 6th av on 11/13 did get Lifetime Service, but for that trancation they did not have to lie about the purchase date as it was a 6av error that they sold the TP on that day for that price.
  20. Jan 6, 2011 #380 of 387

    nycityuser Member

    Dec 30, 2004
    New York, NY
    So does this all mean that those inexpensive Premiere units offered on eBay are eligible for $12.95 pricing only if they were originally purchased before 11/14?

    How can one tell? How can TiVo tell when activating a unit?

    If I buy one on eBay (I already own 3) and want to add it as a 4th will I be able to activate it online for $99/year or $9.95/month with the MSD?

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